Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-07.txt> (Definition of End-to-end Encryption) to Informational RFC

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Thu, 13 October 2022 13:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-07.txt> (Definition of End-to-end Encryption) to Informational RFC
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2022, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:
> Surely the idea must be that e2ee makes it impossible for any third
> party to listen in?

Well, OK, but who is a third party?  In this example is the operator of 
the webmail server first or third party?

To repeat:

>>> I'm not looking for the answers to these questions, but for guidelines that would let us
>>> come up with consistent answers.

Looks like we're a long way from that.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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