Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02.txt> (IETF Stream Documents Require IETF Rough Consensus) to Best Current Practice

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sat, 25 January 2020 20:43 UTC

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:43:08 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02.txt> (IETF Stream Documents Require IETF Rough Consensus) to Best Current Practice
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Hi Joel,
At 07:04 AM 25-01-2020, Joel Halpern Direct wrote:
>As the document says, there already is an IESG statement.  There are 
>several concerns with this.  The important one as far as I am 
>concerned is that the IESG can change its policy.  While it might be 
>bad practice to change it without IETF rough consensus, that is not 
>aformally required.  This way, changing it DOES require IETF rough consensus.
>And it seems to me (and others I have talked to) that it is quite 
>appropriate for an IETF stream BCP to update IETF Stream policy. 
>That is where we define such things.

A BCP does not prevent the IESG from approving the publication of a 
(IETF) RFC as it is the IESG which makes a determination about 
whether there is or there isn't rough consensus.  The available 
recourse in case of disagreement is to request the IESG to reverse 
its decision.  Has there been any appeal in such cases over the last 
five years?

Regards,
S. Moonesamy