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Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02.txt> (IETF Stream Documents Require IETF Rough Consensus) to Best Current Practice

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Tue, 28 January 2020 21:23 UTC

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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 12:32:25 -0800
To: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>, last-call@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Cc: Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02.txt> (IETF Stream Documents Require IETF Rough Consensus) to Best Current Practice
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Hi Rob,
At 03:03 PM 26-01-2020, Rob Sayre wrote:
>For each of these cases, there will be some interaction with RFC 
>5742 if the document is to be published on another stream (the 
>alternative proposed in the draft).
>
>Whether or not this draft is edited, it would be helpful to know 
>what people think is going to happen to these cases. No publication 
>at all? Or publication with one of the IESG messages in 5742? I 
>looked for some Informational and Experimental documents languishing 
>in the IESG queue, since the authors don't seem comfortable 
>discussing the concrete examples they are reacting to.

The documents are likely stuck there as the relevant working group is 
either unable to address the issues or not interested in putting 
effort in the work.  It is not easy to have a clear view of potential 
problems when a matter is not discussed in concrete terms.  It is up 
to authors to determine how this proposal may affect their documents in future.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy

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