Re: [link-relations] [opensearch:393] Registering the 'search' link relation type

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Wed, 03 November 2010 05:00 UTC

Return-Path: <mnot@mnot.net>
X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE6A3A6A74 for <link-relations@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -105.266
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.266 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.667, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vwAwtalIa1ve for <link-relations@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:00:28 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714883A6A7A for <link-relations@ietf.org>; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:00:28 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from chancetrain-lm.mnot.net (unknown [118.209.39.135]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 588BB509B3; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 01:00:32 -0400 (EDT)
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikiYOJdjFhWX8Fq2KYQQVqmCDOU_PFQzpjD8SQm@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 16:00:29 +1100
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <C5488138-596F-40F0-9AFB-6DBB662B34EF@mnot.net>
References: <D27FA5A2-4541-40B9-809C-FAEDC827FCCE@mnot.net> <AANLkTin+UXagypAFGCAOpsx-kBqyfwThMRsaQDLf1EVx@mail.gmail.com> <2BCEFDD3-2A6A-49F8-99B0-EC68F9D09FB6@mnot.net> <AANLkTikiYOJdjFhWX8Fq2KYQQVqmCDOU_PFQzpjD8SQm@mail.gmail.com>
To: DeWitt Clinton <dclinton@gmail.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081)
Cc: "Michael(tm) Smith" <mike@w3.org>, link-relations@ietf.org, opensearch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [link-relations] [opensearch:393] Registering the 'search' link relation type
X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: <link-relations.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations>, <mailto:link-relations-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/link-relations>
List-Post: <mailto:link-relations@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:link-relations-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations>, <mailto:link-relations-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 05:00:33 -0000

OK. If that's the case, should the registration just have:

> Reference:
>  http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1


?

Cheers,


On 03/11/2010, at 3:58 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:

> If the designated experts are comfortable with that approach — and it sounds like you might be, otherwise you wouldn't have asked — I'd personally prefer that, considering the 'search' relation name is used in multiple contexts for the same purpose, not exclusively HTML(5).
> 
> Thanks for asking,
> 
> -DeWitt
> 
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> Thanks, DeWitt.
> 
> One thing; I'm wondering if it makes more sense to list the OpenSearch link directly as the reference, rather than going through the HTML5 one.
> 
> E.g., the registration could be:
> 
> Relation Name:
>  search
> 
> Description:
>  Gives a link to a resource that can be used to search through
>  the current document and its related pages.
> 
> Reference:
>  http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1#Autodiscovery_in_HTML.2FXHTML
> 
> Notes:
>  See also: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-search
> 
> 
> Thoughts? Mike?
> 
> 
> On 03/11/2010, at 3:21 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:
> 
> > No objection at all, (speaking as unofficial spec editor).  Very glad to see this happen, and thank you to Michael Smith and the W3C HTML WG for making the proposal.
> >
> > That URL is stable, and has not changed in several years, and we would of course be sure to preserve it with a redirect in the event anything ever moved.
> >
> > That said, the full URL appears truncated in the registration application.  It currently reads:
> >
> >  http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1#Autodiscovery_in_HTML.2FXH
> >
> > Should be:
> >
> >  http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1#Autodiscovery_in_HTML.2FXHTML
> >
> > Thanks, Mark!
> >
> > -DeWitt
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> > Hello OpenSearchers,
> >
> > I'm acting as a Designated Expert for the IANA Link Relation Type registry, defined by RFC5988 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5988>.
> >
> > We've had a request <http://paramsr.us/tracker/issue18> from the W3C HTML WG to register the 'search' link relation type.
> >
> > Since OpenSearch has defined the 'search' relation type, and HTML5 refers to your specification to define its semantics, we wanted to make sure this registration was OK with the OpenSearch community before proceeding. Do you have any objections to them doing so?
> >
> > Additionally, we (the Designated Experts) wanted to double-check with you that the reference they give is a) appropriate, and b) stable. I.e., it's not going to change gratuitously.
> >
> > We'd appreciate a response as soon as possible, so that we can proceed with the registration.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenSearch" group.
> > To post to this group, send email to opensearch@googlegroups.com.
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
> > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensearch?hl=en.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > link-relations mailing list
> > link-relations@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations
> 
> --
> Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/
> 
> 
> 
> 

--
Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/