Re: [link-relations] [opensearch:393] Registering the 'search' link relation type

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Thu, 04 November 2010 00:46 UTC

Return-Path: <mnot@mnot.net>
X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76B83A69E8 for <link-relations@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:46:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -104.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cph5X18EjJHz for <link-relations@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:46:57 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE903A69CE for <link-relations@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:46:57 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from chancetrain-lm.mnot.net (unknown [118.209.39.135]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B53C1509D9; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 20:46:58 -0400 (EDT)
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
In-Reply-To: <20101103164516.GI3616@sideshowbarker>
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 11:46:55 +1100
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <F862699B-65BB-43A2-B3ED-7693C812C685@mnot.net>
References: <D27FA5A2-4541-40B9-809C-FAEDC827FCCE@mnot.net> <AANLkTin+UXagypAFGCAOpsx-kBqyfwThMRsaQDLf1EVx@mail.gmail.com> <2BCEFDD3-2A6A-49F8-99B0-EC68F9D09FB6@mnot.net> <AANLkTikiYOJdjFhWX8Fq2KYQQVqmCDOU_PFQzpjD8SQm@mail.gmail.com> <C5488138-596F-40F0-9AFB-6DBB662B34EF@mnot.net> <AANLkTinSPfHP0hvvDHJ69Mm95E3a4Onq1BsMJnsExfAS@mail.gmail.com> <20101103164516.GI3616@sideshowbarker>
To: Michael Smith <mike@w3.org>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081)
Cc: DeWitt Clinton <dclinton@gmail.com>, link-relations@ietf.org, opensearch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [link-relations] [opensearch:393] Registering the 'search' link relation type
X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: <link-relations.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations>, <mailto:link-relations-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/link-relations>
List-Post: <mailto:link-relations@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:link-relations-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations>, <mailto:link-relations-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 00:46:59 -0000

Mike, are you requesting the link with the fragid on purpose? Clinton and I seem to agree that going without makes more sense.

Cheers,


On 04/11/2010, at 3:45 AM, Michael(tm) Smith wrote:

> Updated request (in full):
> 
>  Relation Name:
>    search
> 
>  Description:
>    Gives a link to a resource that can be used to search through
>    the current document and its related pages.
> 
>  Reference:
>    http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1#Autodiscovery_in_HTML.2FXHTML
> 
> DeWitt Clinton <dclinton@gmail.com>, 2010-11-02 22:01 -0700:
> 
>> Yes, please.
>> 
>> -DeWitt
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK. If that's the case, should the registration just have:
>>> 
>>>> Reference:
>>>> http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/11/2010, at 3:58 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If the designated experts are comfortable with that approach — and it
>>> sounds like you might be, otherwise you wouldn't have asked — I'd personally
>>> prefer that, considering the 'search' relation name is used in multiple
>>> contexts for the same purpose, not exclusively HTML(5).
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for asking,
>>>> 
>>>> -DeWitt
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>>> Thanks, DeWitt.
>>>> 
>>>> One thing; I'm wondering if it makes more sense to list the OpenSearch
>>> link directly as the reference, rather than going through the HTML5 one.
>>>> 
>>>> E.g., the registration could be:
>>>> 
>>>> Relation Name:
>>>> search
>>>> 
>>>> Description:
>>>> Gives a link to a resource that can be used to search through
>>>> the current document and its related pages.
>>>> 
>>>> Reference:
>>>> 
>>> http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1#Autodiscovery_in_HTML.2FXHTML
>>>> 
>>>> Notes:
>>>> See also: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-search
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts? Mike?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/11/2010, at 3:21 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> No objection at all, (speaking as unofficial spec editor).  Very glad
>>> to see this happen, and thank you to Michael Smith and the W3C HTML WG for
>>> making the proposal.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That URL is stable, and has not changed in several years, and we would
>>> of course be sure to preserve it with a redirect in the event anything ever
>>> moved.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That said, the full URL appears truncated in the registration
>>> application.  It currently reads:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1#Autodiscovery_in_HTML.2FXH
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should be:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1#Autodiscovery_in_HTML.2FXHTML
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Mark!
>>>>> 
>>>>> -DeWitt
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hello OpenSearchers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm acting as a Designated Expert for the IANA Link Relation Type
>>> registry, defined by RFC5988 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5988>.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We've had a request <http://paramsr.us/tracker/issue18> from the W3C
>>> HTML WG to register the 'search' link relation type.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since OpenSearch has defined the 'search' relation type, and HTML5
>>> refers to your specification to define its semantics, we wanted to make sure
>>> this registration was OK with the OpenSearch community before proceeding. Do
>>> you have any objections to them doing so?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Additionally, we (the Designated Experts) wanted to double-check with
>>> you that the reference they give is a) appropriate, and b) stable. I.e.,
>>> it's not going to change gratuitously.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We'd appreciate a response as soon as possible, so that we can proceed
>>> with the registration.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "OpenSearch" group.
>>>>> To post to this group, send email to opensearch@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>> opensearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<opensearch%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
>>> .
>>>>> For more options, visit this group at
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/opensearch?hl=en.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> link-relations mailing list
>>>>> link-relations@ietf.org
>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael(tm) Smith
> http://people.w3.org/mike

--
Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/