Re: [lisp] Standard Track

Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> Tue, 25 August 2015 09:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lisp] Standard Track
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Folks,

so far only Dino replied to this thread. Should we understand that people are not interested in moving LISP to ST?

L.


> On 10 Aug 2015, at 00:02, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As suggested by Terry Manderson during the last meeting, it is time for the WG 
> to think to move away from the Internet Scalability issue and focus on the core
> protocol technology. 
> 
> LISP has its merits, concerning routing scalability, proved by experimental work 
> documented in the various RFC and drafts that the WG has produced so far. 
> That work remains untouched. Yet, LISP provides advantages and benefits 
> in contexts for which it has not been originally designed.
> 
> It would be worth for the WG to consider dropping the scalability aspects,
> focus on the overlay technology itself, and possibly move the work
> on standard track. 
> 
> If the WG decides to go that way, this will give the opportunity to re-work 
> the core set of RFCs defining LISP, avoiding any reference to scalability,
> and possibly enhancing the documents with the experience gathered so far.
> 
> Would be the WG in favour of such direction?
> 
> Joel & Luigi