Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-terminology
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Thu, 25 July 2013 18:20 UTC
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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-terminology
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On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 02:40:28PM +0100, Paul Aitken wrote: > >A potential > >problem with this is that there are likely instructions and tests that > >do impact each other through side effects. > > > > If C1 schedules a test to be started every 5 min past the hour that > > requires no cross traffic while C2 schedules a test to measure > > video streaming capabilities during the interval 3-7 minutes past > > the hour, then C1 will be surprised that the scheduled test never > > executes or produces wrong results. > > Forget about multiple controllers: this situation could arise from a > single controller. > > So a rejection mechanism will surely be necessary regardless of > whether there are one or multiple controllers: > - whether the command protocol is two-way, so the command is > immediately rejected. > - or, the report protocol includes a way of reporting that the > requested test could not be done. > - or both. [...] > If an MA may be commanded to perform multiple tests¹ by a single > controller, then the potential conflicts are the same as multiple > tests from multiple controllers. > > ¹ This is necessary if we are to build complex tests out of simpler > test primitives, eg DNS lookup followed by file download. Yes, but in this case, it is a single active controller making a mistake and thus this is likely easier to debug and deal with compared to multiple controllers 'fighting' over the resources of a MA. If we design for multiple active controllers, we need to build the necessary coordination primitives right into the MA for version 1.0, something I would prefer to avoid since I have the feeling that this adds complexity and will likely delay things. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-terminology Benoit Claise
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… philip.eardley
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Benoit Claise
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… philip.eardley
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Paul Aitken
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Paul Aitken
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Paul Aitken
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Paul Aitken
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… philip.eardley
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Paul Aitken
- Re: [lmap] Feedback on draft-eardley-lmap-termino… Juergen Schoenwaelder