Re: [Lsr] Flooding Topology Computation Algorithm - draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-08 Working Group Adoption Call

Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Fri, 22 May 2020 02:32 UTC

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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 22:32:13 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] Flooding Topology Computation Algorithm - draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-08 Working Group Adoption Call
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I see the diagrams Appendix A -  reviewing

Thanks

Gyan

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:13 PM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I think for both drafts it would be good to have a stick diagram at a
> minimum.
>
> I majored in EE with math  minor and both drafts are hard to follow
> without a diagram with labels showing the exact topology examples.
>
> Four main topologies - full mesh, partial mesh and leaf spine ( 2 tier)
> and CLOS ( 3 tier) - real world scenario’s.
>
> From the interim meeting was their a slide deck visual topology shared?
>
> That would help.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-08
>
> 4.1
>
> Step 1 - Build Cq candidate queue
>
> For each node B on FT whose D is one (from minimum to maximum
>        node ID), find a link L attached to B such that L's remote node R
>        has minimum D and ID, add link L between B and R into FT and
>        increase B's D and R's D by one.  Return FT.
>
> My interpretation is the algorithm an iterative loop and starts with any
> node in the candidate list so could start from edge and work left to right
> or vice versa.  For loop to build FT from Cq = with each node B with
> directly attached node R via link L.  Increment node B from Cq until the FT
> is build for all nodes.  Instead of starting with a wide diameter FT
> matching physical topology we start micro topology with D=1 and go node by
> node.
>
> 4.2
>
> 1.  Finding and removing the first element with node A in Cq that is
>        not on FT and one PH's D in PHs < MaxD and PH's D < PH's ConMaxD.
>
>        If A is root R0, then add the element into FT
>
>        otherwise  (i.e., A != R0 with one PH's D in PHs < MaxD and PH's
>           D < PH's ConMaxD.  Assume that PH is the first one in PHs
>           whose D < MaxD and PH's D < PH's ConMaxD), PH's D++, and add A
>           with D = 1 and PHs = {PH} into FT.
>
>        Note:  if there is no element with a node in Cq satisfying the
>           conditions, then algorithm may be restarted from R0, ++MaxD,
>           Cq = {(R0,D=0,PHs = { })}, FT = { };
>
> This is similar to 4.1 with micro topology with 2 directly connected nodes
>
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-chen-lsr-dynamic-flooding-algorithm-00.html
>
> My interpretation of the algorithm from the verbiage.
>
> So this draft starts in the middle of the topology and is geared towards
> leaf spine 2 or 3 tier clos topology.
>
> For this one we build the bi graph so that could be leaf connected to two
> spines or spine connected to two leafs and iteratively build out the FT
> topology 3 node arch  spine leaf spine or leaf spine leaf.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Gyan
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 7:01 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gyan,
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 4:20 PM
>> *To: *Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
>> *Cc: *Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>, "lsr@ietf.org" <
>> lsr@ietf.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Lsr] Flooding Topology Computation Algorithm -
>> draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-08 Working Group Adoption Call
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes and I have started reviewing the LSR mail archives as I am late in
>> the discussion for this.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have link to any particular dates in the archives would be helpful.
>>
>>
>>
>> No – it was more an “evolution” than an “epiphany”.
>>
>>
>>
>> That sums up all the questions I have so if all answered in the archives
>> then I am all set.
>>
>>
>>
>> I support the draft moving forward as flood reduction is a much needed
>> feature.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think overall both drafts will really help large data centers with any
>> overlay underlay vxlan spine leaf meshed CLOS highly meshed topology that
>> scales out horizontally with a large spine footprint - this is a much much
>> needed feature.  This also helps eliminate complexity of the workaround of
>> using BGP in the underlay which to me adds tremendous complexity.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is the other recently presented dynamic flooding draft.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-lsr-dynamic-flooding-algorithm/
>>
>>
>>
>> You can see they both make use of the dynamic flooding infra in
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding/
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Acee
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Gyan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 4:07 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Speaking as WG Co-chair:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Gyan,
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess you’ve joined this discussion late. It might be a good idea to
>> review the LSR mailing list archives.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 1:51 PM
>> *To: *Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>
>> *Cc: *Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, "lsr@ietf.org" <lsr@ietf.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Lsr] Flooding Topology Computation Algorithm -
>> draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-08 Working Group Adoption Call
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:01 AM Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gyan,
>>
>>
>>
>>     Thanks much for your questions.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Gyan> How does this draft compare to the WG LC draft for flood
>> reduction.  Would they be two eventual standard options in the operators
>> toolbox  or competing features for optimized flood reduction. Would having
>> two flood reduction features standardized versus one default IGP flood
>> reduction feature be confusing for operators.  Just as it was confusing to
>> me.
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding/
>> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding%2F&data=02%7C01%7Chuaimo.chen%40futurewei.com%7C60df274544ba4b75447f08d7fd947201%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637256686327604003&sdata=TGrkecn6m9liviazX7qqPglGqYEWu5Ekg2FRIaDpBZ8%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>>     [HC]: This draft plus the draft for flooding reduction can provide
>> two modes of flooding reductions (i.e., centralized mode and distributed
>> mode). The latter describes the two modes, but does not include any
>> flooding topology computation algorithm for the distributed mode. The
>> former proposes a flooding topology computation algorithm to be used in
>> the distributed mode.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Gyan> It maybe a good idea for both documents to reference each other
>> as to how they play together or  in some respects if any provide a
>> homogeneous complete holistic solution for flooding problem being solved.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is a good idea to have this new draft reference the dynamic-flooding
>> but not vice-versa. The existing dynamic flooding draft provides a
>> framework for any dynamic flooding algorithm that provides a separate
>> flooding topology. This algorithm is just the first to be formally proposed
>> in a draft. Note that another algorithm was presented during the LSR
>> virtual interim which replaced IETF 107.
>>
>>
>>
>> In my opinion it may not be a bad idea even to combine both drafts so the
>> solution is complete and holistic.  This will also make the overall
>> specification flow nicely.
>>
>>
>>
>> No – we’re not going to do this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Acee
>>
>>
>>
>> I know that efforts were made by LSR to have a common IGP solution,
>> however there are many inherent differences between ISIS and OSPF that from
>> IGP Link state protocol perspective you can treat like apples to apples but
>> really it’s apples and oranges.  Maybe it might we wise to have separate
>> draft for both and have references linking together as the same algorithm
>> concept and mathematically however the actual code implementation would
>> vary as the LSDB link state data structures are completely different.
>>
>>
>>
>> Later = Dynamic flooding = 2 modes Centralized leader based and
>> distributed
>>
>>
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding/
>>
>>
>>
>> This later draft per section excerpt provides both centralized and
>> distributed algorithm see below
>>
>>
>>
>> *6.4 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding-05#section-6.4>.  Area Leader Responsibilities*
>>
>>
>>
>>    If the Area Leader operates in centralized mode, it MUST advertise
>>
>>    algorithm 0 in its Area Leader Sub-TLV.  In order for Dynamic
>>
>>    Flooding to be enabled it also MUST compute and advertise a flooding
>>
>>    topology for the area.  The Area Leader may update the flooding
>>
>>    topology at any time, however, it should not destabilize the network
>>
>>    with undue or overly frequent topology changes.  If the Area Leader
>>
>>    operates in centralized mode and needs to advertise a new flooding
>>
>>    topology, it floods the new flooding topology on both the new and old
>>
>>    flooding topologies.
>>
>>
>>
>>    If the Area Leader operates in distributed mode, it MUST advertise a
>>
>>    non-zero algorithm in its Area Leader Sub-TLV.
>>
>>
>>
>>    When the Area Leader advertises algorithm 0 in its Area Leader Sub-
>>
>>    TLV and does not advertise a flooding topology, Dynamic Flooding is
>>
>>    disabled for the area.  Note this applies whether the Area Leader
>>
>>    intends to operate in centralized mode or in distributed mode.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Note that once Dynamic Flooding is enabled, disabling it risks
>>
>>    destabilizing the network.
>>
>>
>>
>> *6.5 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding-05#section-6.5>.  Distributed Flooding Topology Calculation*
>>
>>
>>
>>    If the Area Leader advertises a non-zero algorithm in its Area Leader
>>
>>    Sub-TLV, all nodes in the area that support Dynamic Flooding and the
>>
>>    value of algorithm advertised by the Area Leader MUST compute the
>>
>>    flooding topology based on the Area Leader's advertised algorithm.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Nodes that do not support the value of algorithm advertised by the
>>
>>    Area Leader MUST continue to use standard flooding mechanism as
>>
>>    defined by the protocol.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Nodes that do not support the value of algorithm advertised by the
>>
>>    Area Leader MUST be considered as Dynamic Flooding incapable nodes by
>>
>>    the Area Leader.
>>
>>
>>
>>    If the value of the algorithm advertised by the Area Leader is from
>>
>>    the range 128-254 (private distributed algorithms), it is the responsibility of the
>>
>> network operator to guarantee that all nodes in the area have a common understanding of what the given algorithm value represents.
>>
>>
>>
>> Former = WG LC
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-08
>>
>>
>>
>> Provides algorithm for distributed mode for this draft as well as the
>> algorithm to be used for distributed mode later dynamic flooding draft
>>
>>
>>
>> Separate question-
>>
>>
>>
>> In light of the flooding algorithm and seeing that at the bottom of
>> section 6.5 mentions flooding algorithm are the IANA codepoints reserved
>> for flooding unique and non overlapping with the flex algo codepoints I
>> believe 0-127.  I would think the flooding algorithm range of values is
>> completely separate since a different function then flex algo values.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-07
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Huaimo
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2020 10:36 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>
>> *Cc:* Acee Lindem (acee) <acee=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; lsr@ietf.org
>> <lsr@ietf.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] Flooding Topology Computation Algorithm -
>> draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-08 Working Group Adoption Call
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:59 PM Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gyan,
>>
>>
>>
>>     Thanks much for your questions. My answers are inline below with [HC].
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Huaimo
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:14 AM
>> *To:* Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>
>> *Cc:* Acee Lindem (acee) <acee=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; lsr@ietf.org
>> <lsr@ietf.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] Flooding Topology Computation Algorithm -
>> draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-08 Working Group Adoption Call
>>
>>
>>
>> Huaimo
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a much needed feature that operators have been needing for
>> densely meshed topologies that commonly exist in data centers to
>> accommodate very high bandwidth E-W traffic.
>>
>> [HC]: Thank you very much.
>>
>>
>>
>> Below is link from Cisco which has introduced feature for dynamic
>> flooding in clos high density ECMP data center topologies.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please look at the feature description and it does seem to be exactly the
>> same as this draft.  Please confirm.
>>
>> [HC]: It seems different.
>>
>>
>>
>> There maybe other vendors due to industry demand have to get the feature
>> deployed before it reaches standards vendor consensus with the IETF.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/nexus-9000-series-switches/white-paper-c11-743015.html
>> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Fproducts%2Fcollateral%2Fswitches%2Fnexus-9000-series-switches%2Fwhite-paper-c11-743015.html&data=02%7C01%7Chuaimo.chen%40futurewei.com%7C60df274544ba4b75447f08d7fd947201%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637256686327604003&sdata=CPEu2451qkfD9440Ihj1bKPWl%2BzH%2BiuYUwuWpfzR%2B0Q%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> We are testing this feature and planning to deploy but wanted to ensure
>> that this is the same as the draft on the standards track.
>>
>> [HC]: The feature appears implemented draft "Dynamic Flooding on Dense
>> Graphs", which does not include any flooding topology computation
>> algorithm..
>>
>>
>>
>>     Gyan> How does this draft compare to the WG LC draft for flood
>> reduction.  Would they be two eventual standard options in the operators
>> toolbox  or competing features for optimized flood reduction. Would having
>> two flood reduction features standardized versus one default IGP flood
>> reduction feature be confusing for operators.  Just as it was confusing to
>> me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding/
>> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding%2F&data=02%7C01%7Chuaimo.chen%40futurewei.com%7C60df274544ba4b75447f08d7fd947201%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637256686327604003&sdata=TGrkecn6m9liviazX7qqPglGqYEWu5Ekg2FRIaDpBZ8%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Gyan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:52 PM Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gyan,
>>
>>
>>
>>     Thank you very much for your questions and support.
>>
>>
>>
>>     This Flooding Topology Computation algorithm can be used in the
>> Dynamic Flooding on Dense Graphs to compute the flooding topologies for
>> the data center clos dense meshed topologies with many ECMP paths. It can
>> be used by the area leader in the centralized mode to compute the flooding
>> topology.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Huaimo
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Lsr <lsr-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Gyan Mishra <
>> hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:39 AM
>> *To:* Yanhe Fan <yfan@casa-systems.com>
>> *Cc:* lsr@ietf.org <lsr@ietf.org>; Acee Lindem (acee) <acee=
>> 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] Flooding Topology Computation Algorithm -
>> draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-08 Working Group Adoption Call
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I support WG adoption and have a few questions related to the draft.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does this flooding algorithm use the dynamic flooding algorithm used in
>> data center clos dense meshed topologies with many ECMP paths where the
>> flood is decoupled from the physical topology.  In the dynamic flooding
>> algorithm mentioned in centralized mode the flooding is computed by the
>> area leader and distributed to all nodes.  In distributed mode each mode
>> the area leader determines the algorithm and then each node computes the
>> flooding topology based on the algorithm.
>>
>>
>>
>> This dynamic algorithm for optimized flood reduction would reduce the
>> amount of redundant flooding in highly densely meshed ospf or Isis
>> topologies.  So this optimization of flooding would improving overall link
>> state routing protocol convergence.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gyan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:37 PM Yanhe Fan <yfan@casa-systems.com> wrote:
>>
>> Support it as a co-author.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Yanhe
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Lsr <lsr-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Acee Lindem (acee)
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2020 3:40 PM
>> *To:* lsr@ietf.org
>> *Subject:* [Lsr] Flooding Topology Computation Algorithm -
>> draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-08 Working Group Adoption Call
>>
>>
>>
>> This begins a 3 week (due to holidays) WG adoption call for the “Flooding
>> Topology Computation Algorithm” draft. Please issue your support or
>> objection to this list by 11:59 PM, UTC on June 5th, 2020. Here is a URL
>> for your convenience.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction/
>> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction%2F&data=02%7C01%7Chuaimo.chen%40futurewei.com%7C60df274544ba4b75447f08d7fd947201%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637256686327614000&sdata=FkKUWXneiQIUtjkGB6RITfo0vAt2qhkwDWB%2BghP7%2FLg%3D&reserved=0>
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>> Thanks,
>> Acee
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>> *Gyan Mishra*
>>
>> *Network Solutions Architect *
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>>
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>> *Gyan Mishra*
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