Re: [Madinas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10.txt

[Bob Hinden <[e-mail]>]

Carlos,

Thanks, I will take a look.

Bob


> On Feb 20, 2024, at 11:18 PM, CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob, all,
> 
> We have just posted a new version addressing your comments.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Carlos
> 
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 8:46 PM Bob Hinden <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>> Thanks
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2024, at 12:33 PM, CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> 
>>> Sorry, I think I overlooked your previous comment. I'll update the draft next week.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Carlos
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 1:38 AM Bob Hinden <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>> I believe I made similar comments a while back.   Repeating myself.
>>>> 
>>>> 6. MAC randomization-related activities at the IETF
>>>> 
>>>> This title is ambiguous (and Section 4 and 5 the same problem).   “at the IETF” sounds like at an IETF meeting and “activities” isn’t clear.  Protocols are not “activities”   This should be something like:
>>>> 
>>>>           MAC randomization in IETF Protocol Standards
>>>> 
>>>> The text in this section starts with:
>>>> 
>>>> Several IP address assignment mechanisms such as the IPv6 stateless autoconfiguration techniques (SLAAC) [RFC4862] generate the Interface Identifier (IID) of the address from its MAC address (via EUI64), which then becomes visible to all IPv6 communication peers. This potentially allows for global tracking of a device at L3 from any point on the Internet. Besides, the prefix part of the address provides meaningful insights of the physical location of the device in general, which together with the MAC address-based IID, makes it easier to perform global device tracking.
>>>> 
>>>> This is wrong and out dated.   RFC 8064 "Recommendation on Stable IPv6 Interface Identifiers” published in 2017 formally updated IPv6 IID selection to prefer RFC 7217 IIDs and recommends against embedding stable link-layer address in IPv6 IIDS.
>>>> 
>>>> This section needs a serious rewrite.
>>>> 
>>>> Today, I also noted in third paragraph of this section a reference to [RFC4191].  The text is:
>>>> 
>>>> [RFC4191] identifies and describes the privacy issues associated with embedding MAC stable addressing information into the IPv6 addresses (as part of the IID) and describes some mechanisms to mitigate the associated problems.
>>>> 
>>>> RFC4191 is "Default Router Preferences and More-Specific Routes”.  This has nothing to do with embedding MAC stable addresss.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 3:02 AM, [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10.txt is now
>>>>> available. It is a work item of the MAC Address Device Identification for
>>>>> Network and Application Services (MADINAS) WG of the IETF.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Title:   Randomized and Changing MAC Address state of affairs
>>>>>   Authors: Juan Carlos Zuniga
>>>>>            Carlos J. Bernardos
>>>>>            Amelia Andersdotter
>>>>>   Name:    draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10.txt
>>>>>   Pages:   18
>>>>>   Dates:   2024-01-11
>>>>> 
>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Internet privacy has become a major concern over the past few years.
>>>>>   Users are becoming more aware that their online activity leaves a
>>>>>   vast digital footprint, that communications are not always properly
>>>>>   secured, and that their location and actions can be easily tracked.
>>>>>   One of the main factors for the location tracking issue is the wide
>>>>>   use of long-lasting identifiers, such as MAC addresses.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   There have been several initiatives at the IETF and the IEEE 802
>>>>>   standards committees to overcome some of these privacy issues.  This
>>>>>   document provides an overview of these activities, with the intention
>>>>>   to inform the technical community about them, and help coordinate
>>>>>   between present and future standardization activities.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization/
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10
>>>>> 
>>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>>>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10
>>>>> 
>>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
>>>>> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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