Re: [Madinas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10.txt

David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> Fri, 12 January 2024 18:11 UTC

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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:10:09 -0600
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Subject: Re: [Madinas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10.txt
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 11:31 AM Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 6:39 PM Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I believe I made similar comments a while back.   Repeating myself.
>>
>> 6. MAC randomization-related activities at the IETF
>>
>> This title is ambiguous (and Section 4 and 5 the same problem).   “at the
>> IETF” sounds like at an IETF meeting and “activities” isn’t clear.
>> Protocols are not “activities”   This should be something like:
>>
>>           MAC randomization in IETF Protocol Standards
>>
>> The text in this section starts with:
>>
>> Several IP address assignment mechanisms such as the IPv6 stateless
>> autoconfiguration techniques (SLAAC) [RFC4862] generate the Interface
>> Identifier (IID) of the address from its MAC address (via EUI64), which
>> then becomes visible to all IPv6 communication peers. This potentially
>> allows for global tracking of a device at L3 from any point on the
>> Internet. Besides, the prefix part of the address provides meaningful
>> insights of the physical location of the device in general, which together
>> with the MAC address-based IID, makes it easier to perform global device
>> tracking.
>>
>>
>> This is wrong and out dated.   RFC 8064 "Recommendation on Stable IPv6
>> Interface Identifiers” published in 2017 formally updated IPv6 IID
>> selection to prefer RFC 7217 IIDs and recommends against embedding stable
>> link-layer address in IPv6 IIDS.
>>
>> This section needs a serious rewrite.
>>
>> Today, I also noted in third paragraph of this section a reference to
>> [RFC4191].  The text is:
>>
>> [RFC4191] identifies and describes the privacy issues associated with
>> embedding MAC stable addressing information into the IPv6 addresses (as
>> part of the IID) and describes some mechanisms to mitigate the associated
>> problems.
>>
>>
>> RFC4191 is "Default Router Preferences and More-Specific Routes”.  This
>> has nothing to do with embedding MAC stable addresss.
>>
>>
>
> It seems like RFC 4191 was a typo, it should have been
> RFC 4941 Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in
> IPv6
>

Yes, that seems likely. However, RFC 4941 has been obsoleted by RFC 8981,
Temporary Address Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6

Thanks
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