Re: [Madinas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10.txt
CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> Fri, 12 January 2024 20:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Madinas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10.txt
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Hi Bob, Sorry, I think I overlooked your previous comment. I'll update the draft next week. Thanks! Carlos On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 1:38 AM Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote: > I believe I made similar comments a while back. Repeating myself. > > 6. MAC randomization-related activities at the IETF > > This title is ambiguous (and Section 4 and 5 the same problem). “at the > IETF” sounds like at an IETF meeting and “activities” isn’t clear. > Protocols are not “activities” This should be something like: > > MAC randomization in IETF Protocol Standards > > The text in this section starts with: > > Several IP address assignment mechanisms such as the IPv6 stateless > autoconfiguration techniques (SLAAC) [RFC4862] generate the Interface > Identifier (IID) of the address from its MAC address (via EUI64), which > then becomes visible to all IPv6 communication peers. This potentially > allows for global tracking of a device at L3 from any point on the > Internet. Besides, the prefix part of the address provides meaningful > insights of the physical location of the device in general, which together > with the MAC address-based IID, makes it easier to perform global device > tracking. > > > This is wrong and out dated. RFC 8064 "Recommendation on Stable IPv6 > Interface Identifiers” published in 2017 formally updated IPv6 IID > selection to prefer RFC 7217 IIDs and recommends against embedding stable > link-layer address in IPv6 IIDS. > > This section needs a serious rewrite. > > Today, I also noted in third paragraph of this section a reference to > [RFC4191]. The text is: > > [RFC4191] identifies and describes the privacy issues associated with > embedding MAC stable addressing information into the IPv6 addresses (as > part of the IID) and describes some mechanisms to mitigate the associated > problems. > > > RFC4191 is "Default Router Preferences and More-Specific Routes”. This > has nothing to do with embedding MAC stable addresss. > > Bob > > > On Jan 11, 2024, at 3:02 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > Internet-Draft draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10.txt is now > available. It is a work item of the MAC Address Device Identification for > Network and Application Services (MADINAS) WG of the IETF. > > Title: Randomized and Changing MAC Address state of affairs > Authors: Juan Carlos Zuniga > Carlos J. Bernardos > Amelia Andersdotter > Name: draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10.txt > Pages: 18 > Dates: 2024-01-11 > > Abstract: > > Internet privacy has become a major concern over the past few years. > Users are becoming more aware that their online activity leaves a > vast digital footprint, that communications are not always properly > secured, and that their location and actions can be easily tracked. > One of the main factors for the location tracking issue is the wide > use of long-lasting identifiers, such as MAC addresses. > > There have been several initiatives at the IETF and the IEEE 802 > standards committees to overcome some of these privacy issues. This > document provides an overview of these activities, with the intention > to inform the technical community about them, and help coordinate > between present and future standardization activities. > > The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization/ > > There is also an HTMLized version available at: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-10 > > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at: > rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts > > > -- > Madinas mailing list > Madinas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/madinas > > > -- > Madinas mailing list > Madinas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/madinas >
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