Re: [Manycouches] New blog post: Towards a net zero IETF

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 18 May 2022 10:35 UTC

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Le 18/05/2022 à 12:11, Jay Daley a écrit :
> (I would prefer this discussion on admin-discuss since it’s not not a 
> shmoo thing but I expect I’m pushing water uphill in asking for that)

Is admin-discuss an open email list or is it reserved?

(admin makes think of reserved for administrators)

Alex

> 
>> On 18 May 2022, at 10:48, Alexandre Petrescu 
>> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Le 11/05/2022 à 19:34, Lars Eggert a écrit :
>>> In case someone isn't subscribed to ietf-announce.
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>>>> <mailto:exec-director@ietf.org> <mailto:exec-director@ietf.org 
>>>> <mailto:exec-director@ietf.org>>> *Subject: **New blog post: Towards
>>>> a net zero IETF* *Date: *May 6, 2022 at 17:11:55 GMT+3 *To: *IETF
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>>>> A new blog post has been published, "Towards a net zero IETF"
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/blog/towards-a-net-zero-ietf/ 
>>>> <https://www.ietf.org/blog/towards-a-net-zero-ietf/>
>>
>> Is the cited "GHG Protocol’s Emission Factors for Cross-Sector Tools"
>> conforming the transportation measurements of CO2 emmissions to the
>> recently issued
>> "ISO 23795-1 Intelligent transport systems — Extracting trip data using
>> nomadic and mobile devices for estimating C02 emissions — Part 1: Fuel
>> consumption determination for fleet management" ?
> 
> No.  The latter is one mechanism of many for estimating emissions, the 
> former is a calculator that is based on a set of standard estimate drawn 
> from multiple sources.
> 
>>
>> Or is it a kind of rule of thumb?
> 
> No.  See https://ghgprotocol.org/ghg-emissions-calculation-tool 
> <https://ghgprotocol.org/ghg-emissions-calculation-tool> for more details.
> 
>>
>> Are the CO-NOX-and-related live measurement networks of air pollution in
>> the area of the meeting taken into account?
> 
> No.  Any measure of general (or even specific) levels of air pollution 
> in a particular area cannot be used to calculate the level of emissions 
> because these are open environments not closed laboratories.
> 
>>
>> Are the sound measurements considered?  (sound is also a form of
>> environmental pollution, especially airplane jet sound).
> 
> No, this is about CO2e emissions.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>>> <https://www.ietf.org/blog/towards-a-net-zero-ietf/ 
>>>> <https://www.ietf.org/blog/towards-a-net-zero-ietf/>>
>>>> This introduces an IETF Administration LLC project to measure and 
>>>> potentially offset the carbon emissions of the IETF.
>>
>> Alex
>>
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