Re: [marf] Comments on draft-jdfalk-marf-as-00

"J.D. Falk" <jdfalk-lists@cybernothing.org> Thu, 01 September 2011 19:21 UTC

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On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:

> There should be some discussion of MARF reports initiated from generic
> MUA's rather than MUA's provided by the MSA operator.

Do you have any examples of this type of functionality in MUAs available today?

> There should be a statement that MARF is not meant to replace plain
> text reports to abuse and postmaster, but rather is an additional
> option.

I believe we covered that in marf-base, but I wouldn't be opposed to saying it again.  Can you suggest some appropriate language?

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