[marf] Abuse reporting, was draft-jdfalk-marf-as

Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Fri, 24 June 2011 16:17 UTC

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Subject: [marf] Abuse reporting, was draft-jdfalk-marf-as
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On 23/Jun/11 21:29, John Levine wrote:
> My experience, which may or may not be typical of what other people
> would find, is that sending reports in ARF format works fine, but
> figuring out where to send them is a big challenge.

Yes.

> In particular, getting the addresses from WHOIS works poorly both
> because of the iffy quality of WHOIS data, and because WHOIS
> servers don't have the capacity to handle high volume scraping.

I don't agree.  WHOIS is trying and getting better.  IIRC, I found an
abuse POC in Arin saying something like they haven't been able to
verify such address for a while.  A rather non-formal statement that
suggests they do routinely check those email addresses.
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#three6

The abuse contact is mandatory in Apnic
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-079

Ripe has an abuse finder tool, and a task force is discussing the
introduction of an abuse-c.
http://apps.db.ripe.net/search/abuse-finder.html
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/groups/tf/abuse-contact

I think a document is needed in order to state the "obvious" facts
that RIRs don't have the scope for discussing.  Since JD said it
cannot be part of the FBL AS, we'd probably better write a new one.

Is it possible to do so?