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Re: [Masque] Adoption call for "Requirements for a MASQUE Protocol to Proxy IP Traffic"

David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 09 September 2020 23:29 UTC

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From: David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 16:29:17 -0700
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Cc: Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>, MASQUE <masque@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Masque] Adoption call for "Requirements for a MASQUE Protocol to Proxy IP Traffic"
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(To state the obvious: as one of the authors, I support adoption)

I strongly disagree with Ben's suggestion to use the state "Adopted for WG
info only".
I've pasted the definition for that state from RFC 6174 here:

   The "Adopted for WG Info Only" state describes a document that
   contains useful information for the WG that adopted it, but the
   document is not intended to be published as an RFC.  The WG will not
   actively develop the contents of the I-D or progress it for
   publication as an RFC.  The only purpose of the I-D is to provide
   information for internal use by the WG.

Source: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6174#section-4.2.3

I think there is value in publishing this document as RFC,
and our charter specifically states "The working group will first
deliver [...] a requirements document for IP proxying."
My understanding is that, in that sentence, "deliver" a
document means publish an RFC.

David


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 7:20 AM Ben Schwartz <bemasc=
40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> I support adoption.  (Per [1], I would suggest using the document state
> "Adopted for WG info only".)
>
> I would like to see a requirement for compatibility with existing IETF IP
> tunnel layers like PPP (and IPCP/IPV6CP).  Ideally, we could avoid
> reinventing these protocols, and just carry them over HTTP.  Failing that,
> I'd like to make sure that we can at least expose a PPP-compatible
> interface around MASQUE-IP, or provide instructions for chaining PPP and
> MASQUE-IP links with a minimum of mismatch.
>
> [1] https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/support-documents/
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 8:31 AM Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
> wrote:
>
>> One of the goals on our charter is producing a requirements document for
>> IP proxying. draft-cms-masque-ip-proxy-reqs is one attempt at accomplishing
>> this goal. Based on feedback received during the last meeting and the
>> document revision since, we'd like to start an adoption call for this
>> document in its current form as a starting point.
>>
>> The document may be found here:
>>
>>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cms-masque-ip-proxy-reqs/
>>
>> And the source may be found here:
>>
>>    https://github.com/DavidSchinazi/masque-drafts
>>
>> This call for adoption will conclude on September 23.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris and Eric
>>
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