Re: [mif-arch-dt] FW: New Version Notification for draft-anipko-mif-mpvd-arch-00.txt

Dmitry Anipko <Dmitry.Anipko@microsoft.com> Fri, 19 July 2013 23:37 UTC

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From: Dmitry Anipko <Dmitry.Anipko@microsoft.com>
To: Dapeng Liu <liudapeng@chinamobile.com>, "mif-arch-dt@ietf.org" <mif-arch-dt@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [mif-arch-dt] FW: New Version Notification for draft-anipko-mif-mpvd-arch-00.txt
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Hi Dapeng,

Thank you for reading the draft.

>> The question is: for each of the configuration elements, for example: DNS, proxy, DHCP server etc there should be a PVD identification associates with it or there is only one global identification for a PVD?

My reading of the pre-draft discussions and my thinking was that there is a identification for PVD as a whole (I think what  you mean as the latter in your sentence). Is there some scenario which, you think, requires identifier for individual elements?

Thank you.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dapeng Liu [mailto:liudapeng@chinamobile.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:51 PM
To: Dmitry Anipko; mif-arch-dt@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [mif-arch-dt] FW: New Version Notification for draft-anipko-mif-mpvd-arch-00.txt

Hi Dmitry,

Thanks for posting the draft. I have a comment regarding how the PVD identification works. As states in the draft, a PVD may have a PVD identification with it, it may be a human readable identification. 
The question is: for each of the configuration elements, for example: DNS, proxy, DHCP server etc there should be a PVD identification associates with it or there is only one global identification for a PVD?

Thanks,
Dapeng
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From: mif-arch-dt-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mif-arch-dt-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dmitry Anipko
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:24 PM
To: mif-arch-dt@ietf.org
Subject: [mif-arch-dt] FW: New Version Notification for draft-anipko-mif-mpvd-arch-00.txt

Hi everyone.

I've just posted the first version of the MPD arch draft based on the teleconfs and list discussions we've had so far. If possible, please take a look before the Monday call and comment.

For some of the topics, which we touched but where I didn't feel like I had enough information, for now I created placeholder sections with little / no text.

Thank you,
Dmitry



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Subject: New Version Notification for draft-anipko-mif-mpvd-arch-00.txt

A new version of I-D, draft-anipko-mif-mpvd-arch-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Dmitry Anipko and posted to the IETF repository.

Filename:        draft-anipko-mif-mpvd-arch
Revision:        00
Title:           Multiple Provisioning Domain Architecture
Creation date:   2013-07-13
Group:           Individual Submission
Number of pages: 9
URL:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-anipko-mif-mpvd-arch-00.txt
Status:          http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-anipko-mif-mpvd-arch
Htmlized:        http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-anipko-mif-mpvd-arch-00


Abstract:
   This document is a product of the work of MIF architecture design
   team.  It outlines a solution framework for some of the issues,
   experienced by nodes that can be attached to multiple networks.  The
   framework defines the notion of a Provisioning Domain (PVD) - a
   consistent set of network configuration information, and PVD-aware
   nodes - nodes which learn PVDs from the attached network(s) and/or
   other sources and manage and use multiple PVDs for connectivity
   separately and consistently.




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