Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-wakikawa-nemo-v4tunnela MIP6/NEMO WGs document
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Subject: Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-wakikawa-nemo-v4tunnela MIP6/NEMO WGs document
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I agree with Henrik. If we have multiple solution proposals, then I think it makes sense to look at the problem more closely, see how the proposed solutions do and don't address the problem, and try to come up with a solution (or pick one) that best solves the problem. jak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henrik Levkowetz" <henrik@levkowetz.com> To: <Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com> Cc: <nemo@ietf.org>; <mip6@ietf.org> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-wakikawa-nemo-v4tunnela MIP6/NEMO WGs document > Hi, > > On 2005-03-30 9:33 pm Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com said the following: > [...] > > A number of transition scenarios have been identified in IDs: > > 1. draft-larsson-v6ops-mip-scenarios-01 > > 2. draft-tsirtsis-dsmip-problem-03 > > While discussion of these scenarios in the larger scope makes sense, > > there is a need to focus on the most critical scenario that would > > address the MIP6 host and router problem. The problem in a single > > sentence can be stated as: "Mobile IPv6 hosts and routers (NEMO) need > > to be able to reach its (IPv6) home agent and services when roaming in > > and attached to an IPv4 access network." > > It makes sense to focus on just this one scenario and solve the > > problem immediately. > > Given that there already exists at least 3 solution drafts in this area: > > draft-thubert-nemo-ipv4-traversal > draft-soliman-v4v6-mipv6 > draft-wakikawa-nemo-v4tunnel > > and Sri clearly indicates that there are requirements which these > don't cover, I think it would be good to have a clear and agreed > upon statement of what to achieve before adopting an approach and > draft. So I'm not for adopting draft-wakikawa before there is an > agreed upon problem statement. > > That said, I'm very much in favour of doing this work; and doing > it by extensions to MIP6 (and MIP4) rather than trying to adapt > any of the other approaches which would mix MIP6 with non-MIP tunnels, > as listed in draft-larsson-v6ops-mip-scenarios-01. > > If the decision is to write a problem statement, I'd be willing to > work on such a draft, and I also have a potential co-editor who have > indicated willingness. > > > The ID: draft-wakikawa-nemo-v4tunnel-01 solves the problem of a MIPv6 > > mobile node or a NEMO mobile router roaming onto a IPv4 only access > > network in a simple manner. > > It is intended that the standardization of this solution in the IETFs > > MIP6 and/or NEMO working groups proceed. The working group chairs have > > reviewed and discussed this work item. It has also been presented at > > the MIP6 and NEMO WGs at IETF62. > > > > The chairs would like to hear your thoughts in order to see if there > > is consensus to make it a WG document and progress it as a standards > > track RFC. Comments should be sent to both the NEMO and MIP6 WGs. > > > > If we have consensus, then the document will be pursued as a dual WG > > item and called draft-ietf-mip6-nemo-v4tunnel-xx.txt > > > > Make I-D draft-wakikawa-nemo-v4tunnel a MIP6/NEMO WG ID: > > For [ ] > > Against [ ] > > > > Not currently [ X ] > > > Henrik > > _______________________________________________ > Mip6 mailing list > Mip6@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mip6 > _______________________________________________ Mip6 mailing list Mip6@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mip6
- [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-wakikawa… Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Sri Gundavelli
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Carl Williams
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Pekka Savola
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Keiichi SHIMA
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Pekka Savola
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pekka Savola
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Basavaraj.Patil
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [nemo] RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Sri Gundavelli
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Alpesh
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pekka Savola
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Alpesh
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Sri Gundavelli
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Sri Gundavelli
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Kent Leung
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Pekka Savola
- RE: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [nemo] Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID… Pekka Savola
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call on making ID draft-waki… Ryuji Wakikawa