Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Tue, 23 February 2016 15:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions
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On 2/23/16 5:29 AM, Colin Perkins wrote: > No objection in principle, but it’s not as simple as “a few network RTTs”: > > No ambiguity in decoding means that the packets need to have been played > out, so the codec state for that PT can be discarded. Some systems can > have large (multi-second) playout buffers. > > Any packets referring to the old PT also need to be gone. Formats > like RFC 6354 allow large offsets between streams, referenced by PT (the > example in Section 5 has a 5.1 second offset). Thanks for the insight. It helps to ground the discussion. I'm also interested in hearing if there might be *other* reasons behind the rules as they are written. The advantage of the current rule is that it is easy to explain, and is sufficient to deal with the problem you describe above. Unfortunately it is also difficult/impossible to comply with in some cases. If we are to replace it, we need to find something else to replace it with. Would it be possible to instead make a rule that a PT can't be reused until there are no active streams using it? (That any that were initiated have been terminated.) Note: I don't know RTP well enough to be confident that this even makes sense. Thanks, Paul
- [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions DOLLY, MARTIN C
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Drage, Keith (Nokia - GB)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Ben Campbell
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Ben Campbell
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Makaraju, Raju (Nokia - US)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Drage, Keith (Nokia - GB)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Offer/Answer PT Questions Roman Shpount