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HI chairs,
So not to lose that valuable information: can you please add the result of the show of hands against mandatory to implement media formats?
Thanks,
Stephan


From: Moq <moq-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 02:23
To: Alan Frindell <afrind=40fb.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: MOQ Mailing List <moq@ietf.org>
Subject: [Moq] Reminder: Minutes from IETF 114 MoQ BoF

We plan to turn in the minutes on August 17th, at the end of the business day; are there any proposed corrections?

regards,

Ted

On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 2:44 PM Alan Frindell <afrind=40fb.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40fb.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
Media over QUIC BoF
IETF 114
Chairs: Alan Frindell and Ted Hardie

After a review of the Note Well, the group reviewed the proposed charter and proposed several changes, which were accepted by those in the room and formed the basis for the BoF questions.  Given below are the outcomes of those questions.

152 total participants

1. Does the community think that the problem statement is clear, well-scoped, solvable, and useful to solve?

Yes: 80
No: 10
All: 90

2. Can I see a show of hands of folk willing to review documents (or comment on the mailing list) if a working group is formed?

Yes: 62
No: 9
All: 71

3. Does the community think that given any charter revisions discussed during the BOF (subject to review and finalization on the mailing list), a WG should be formed?

Yes: 90
No: 4
All: 94

4. For anyone who does not think a WG should not be formed, do you wish to address the BoF explaining your concerns?

No one joins the queue.

5. Does the AD have any questions or concerns

No


A list of the changes to the charter adopted during the BoF can be found here<https://github.com/moq-wg/moq-charter/commits/main/charter.md> (see commits on 27 July).

A link to the raw minutes of the meeting can be found here<https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-114-moq>.  Please report any corrections to the chairs.

Thanks

Alan and Ted



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