Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-00.txt
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Thu, 09 January 2014 14:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-00.txt
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On 01/09/2014 02:16 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for the rapid response. > > I leave some of your questions for wider discussion and just respond to a few of > them... > >> As an operator, my rather high level concerns are: >> >> - What impact does this have on linear data plane >> throughput? > > TBD > Some people have noted that per hop encryption/decryption might be an issue. > Others have countered that ETH h/w can already handle MACsec at line rate. > e2e encryption seems (to me) to be less likely to be an issue. I'm not a h/w person myself, so take this with salt, but [1] indicates they got 30Gbps with one Xilinx Virtex5 FPGA and AES-GCM is designed to be parallelised. S. [1] http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6674921 > >> - What impact does this have on data plane >> operational complexity? >> >> - What impact does this have on the control plane. > > AFAIK, none. The I-D doesn't touch the control plane. > >> - How efficient is key management on a global level, >> and what is the practical impact to day-to-day >> operations, for situations where MPLS paths cross >> distinct routing domains? > > The point of OE is that there is no key management on a global level. > It is, of course, still relatively rare that LSPs cross distinct routing > domains, but when they do, this need not have any impact on OE. > >> - What kind of backward compatibility is there for >> domains that do not participate, or for nodes >> within the same domain that do not participate, as >> this has an impact on overall domain capability >> (i.e., cost). > > This is covered in the document (although maybe not in enough detail?). > Transit nodes (and so domains) do not need to be aware of the encryption which > is below the top labels and potentially below the entropy label. > End nodes that do not support will, erm, not support :-) > > Thanks for the early thoughts and I encourage an in-depth read and some more > pontifications. > > Adrian >
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Eric Rosen
- [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-opport… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Mark Tinka
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Mark Tinka
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Eric Rosen
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Mark Tinka
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Mark Tinka
- Re: [mpls] FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-op… Mark Tinka