[mpls] Simultaneity of multi-level HPSM (Re: Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm)
Yoshinori Koike <koike.yoshinori@lab.ntt.co.jp> Wed, 22 February 2012 04:21 UTC
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Subject: [mpls] Simultaneity of multi-level HPSM (Re: Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm)
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Hi Zhenlong, Thank you for your comment. I'm sorry for this late reply. As we wrote in the same section, a combination of multi-level and "simultaneous monitoring" is the most powerful tool for accurately diagnosing the performance of a transport path. However I think it's better to add some texts for clarification in the section. We will refine the section using your proposed text next time we update the draft. Editors already discussed the necessity of simultaneity of multi-level HPSMs before. The following is just a reference information. Our fist priority is to request a tool to diagnose a degraded point without affecting transport path. From that perspective, a single-level HPSM is mandatory. Secondly, multi-level HPSMs can make the detection of a degraded point more efficient. Therefore, it is an option in the current draft. In addition, the simultaneity of multi-level HPSMs is related to an accuracy of the measurements which can make the detection much more efficient. Therefore, it is also an option. (I understand that it is not clear in the texts.) Best regards, Yoshinori (2012/02/13 9:52), Zhenlong Cui wrote: > Yes/support. > > I would like to raise some comments regarding section 6. > > I think performance monitoring is different from the survivability analysis, as it has a certain time-dependent behavior. Therefore, > I think the on-demand single-level segment monitoring must "timely coordinate" with the other levels that include the pro-active > end-to-end monitoring. > > I suggest adding some description to section 6 along these lines: > > In order to increase the accuracy of performance monitoring, > on-demand multi-level performance monitoring must have the ability to > execute at all levels at the same time. > > Best Regards, > zhenlong > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson >> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:27 PM >> To: mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team; draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm@tools.ietf.org; Ross Callon; George >> Swallow; Adrian Farrel >> Subject: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm >> >> Working Group, >> >> this is to start a two week poll to see if there is support to make >> >> draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm-04 >> >> mpls working group drafts. >> >> Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list >> (mpls@ietf.org). >> >> This poll ends February 22, 2012! >> >> Loa >> for the mpls wg chairs >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >> +46 767 72 92 13 >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > -- Yoshinori Koike koike.yoshinori@lab.ntt.co.jp
- [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-hitle… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… zhang.fei3
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Yoshinori Koike
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Rolf Winter
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… HUANG Feng F
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Satoshi UENO
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… hideki.endo.es
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… masahiko.mizutani.ew
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Ryoo, Jeong-dong
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Zhenlong Cui
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Manuel.Paul
- Re: [mpls] Poll on draft-koike-mpls-tp-temporal-h… Andrew G. Malis
- [mpls] Addition on this poll - the IPR aspect (Wa… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] Addition on this poll - the IPR aspect… Manuel.Paul
- [mpls] Simultaneity of multi-level HPSM (Re: Poll… Yoshinori Koike
- Re: [mpls] Addition on this poll - the IPR aspect… Yoshinori Koike
- Re: [mpls] Addition on this poll - the IPR aspect… Satoshi UENO
- Re: [mpls] Addition on this poll - the IPR aspect… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] [AHMPLS-TP] Re: Addition on this poll … Loa Andersson