Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination based on status/identity
Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Sat, 28 January 2017 03:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination based on status/identity
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On 1/27/2017 5:50 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: > The problem we're > trying to solve with respect to venue selection is to establish > policies that define conditions that can or should be met > that allow IETF participants to travel to meetings > without consistently placing undue burdens on some subset. The IAOC has, at least once, chosen to decline from exploring an otherwise-very appealing venue that had onerous visa policies, which targeted exactly one country's citizens, and which would have affect perhaps one IETF attendee at that time. (A challenge with the constraint to focus on 'attendees' is the desire to encourage new attendees, from everywhere.) I don't know where the IETF should draw the line on selecting venues with respect to this kind of concern. I don't believe it is possible to write a clear, precise, adequate rule that covers all such cases. And so, for example, I don't know whether the US's latest action should preclude going to US venues.[*] That's why I'm so fond of merely having the IETF community use its aggregate voice during an early city review query. d/ [*] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/world/middleeast/trump-visa-muslim-ban.html -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
- [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination based… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… Laura Nugent
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Mtgvenue] Open issue: legal discrimination b… S Moonesamy