Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resimprove"
Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Fri, 10 February 2012 03:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resimprove"
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On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:09 AM, paul vixie wrote: > based on the renewed interest in the delegation and glue ttl problem > caused by the "ghost domains" paper, i looked again at: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove-00 > > ...which i presented in prague about a year ago. the sticking point was: > > B. Stopping a downward cache search when an NXDOMAIN is encountered. > > and all of section 3. this proposal was considered controversial since > two existing implementation (rbldnsd and tinydns) currently send > nxdomain when queried for an empty nonterminal domain name. i did not > agree that this was a problem since RBL DNS queries are always full > length (that is, for all octets or all nybbles of an inverted host > address) and since the DNSSEC specification clarified non-terminal names > as existing but empty. > > i now propose that we dust off this draft, remove (B) and section 3, and > progress it not as an improvement but as a security and resiliency > requirement (so, a proposed standard) in the face of the "ghost domain" > problem. > > i may yet reintroduce the NXDOMAIN matter but i don't think that we > should logjam on it any further. > > with five shows of support i would consider the editorial work involved > here to be worth doing. I am no longer sure who the five were, but I was not one of them, you now have 6. I would be more than happy to contribute / edit / review / whatever is needed to progress it. I think this is a very useful draft… W > > paul > > _______________________________________________ > dnsext mailing list > dnsext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsext > -- Don't be impressed with unintelligible stuff said condescendingly. -- Radia Perlman. _______________________________________________ dnsext mailing list dnsext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsext
- [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resimprov… paul vixie
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Frederico A C Neves
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Warren Kumari
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… paul vixie
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… W.C.A. Wijngaards
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Florian Weimer
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Evan Hunt
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Blacka, David
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Olafur Gudmundsson
- [dnsext] Ghost domain names Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Blacka, David
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dnsext] Ghost domain names Florian Weimer
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Mohan Parthasarathy
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Paul Vixie
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Mohan Parthasarathy
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] perhaps we should reintroduce "resim… Mohan Parthasarathy