Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call ended for:draft-ietf-netconf-4741bis-04.txt
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Wed, 06 October 2010 13:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call ended for:draft-ietf-netconf-4741bis-04.txt
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On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 03:33:59PM +0200, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:24:23PM +0200, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - > > DE/Munich) wrote: > > > > > Section 12.2. Informative References > > > > > > > > > > Add draft-ietf-netmod-yang-usage-11 as informative reference. > > > > > > > > Why? That document is intended for YANG module writers. > > > > > > Appendix C includes a normative YANG module and IANA considerations > > > include namespace registration, etc., which follow the guidelines > > > in draft-ietf-netmod-yang-usage. > > > I think people who read the YANG module in 4741bis should be also > > > pointed to the guidelines document. > > > > Why? The guidelines are for module writers / reviewers not module > > readers. You want to have them cited in each and every module we > > publish? We do not do this for MIB modules. > > It is actually the same reason why we have the informative > reference on: > > [13] Hollenbeck, S., Rose, M., and L. Masinter, "Guidelines for the > Use of Extensible Markup Language (XML) within IETF Protocols", > BCP 70, RFC 3470, January 2003. Since the document in question defines a protocol that carries XML, having this reference may seem different from requiring a reference to the YANG guidelines how to write a YANG proper module in every YANG module. At least in the SMIv2 space, we managed to live without it. But then, if you feel strongly about this, lets just add it instead of debating this long. Lets hope the guidelines document gives the guideline that the guidelines document select-one-of(must|MUST|should|SHOULD) be cited. ;-) /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [Netconf] 2-week WG Last Call for: draft-ietf-net… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call ended f… Bert (IETF) Wijnen
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Phil Shafer
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Andrew Stone
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] We NEED RESPONSES: WG Last Call end… Andrew Stone