Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG?
"Laganier, Julien" <julienl@qualcomm.com> Thu, 19 August 2010 15:28 UTC
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From: "Laganier, Julien" <julienl@qualcomm.com>
To: "Koodli, Rajeev" <rkoodli@cisco.com>, Tran Minh Trung <trungtm@etri.re.kr>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:29:26 -0700
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Subject: Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG?
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I think it is simple, any MAG to which the mobile node is attached shall forward packets from/to that mobile node. That does not require signaling when LMA decides to move a flow. --julien > -----Original Message----- > From: Koodli, Rajeev [mailto:rkoodli@cisco.com] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:23 PM > To: Tran Minh Trung > Cc: Laganier, Julien; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; Youn-Hee Han; netext@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? > > > Even though the logical interface can make the packets available to the > MN, the main issue is whether MAG1 forwards those packets. > MAG1 needs to advertise p3 as well. It is for such cases we need > signaling from LMA *whenever* the LMA decides to move the flow(s). > > -Rajeev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: trungtm2909@gmail.com on behalf of Tran Minh Trung > Sent: Mon 8/2/2010 7:48 PM > To: Koodli, Rajeev > Cc: Laganier, Julien; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; Youn-Hee Han; netext@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? > > I agree that the prefix p3, according to RFC 5213 , does not have to > be simultaneously assigned to MAG1. However when we use logical > interface at the MN, the prefix p3 should be shareable to allow flow > mobility. In addition, the logical interface can receive packets sent > to any of its sub-interfaces as described in > draft-melia-netext-logical-interface-support-01 (property #2). > > The question here is how to change RFC 5213 to support shared-prefix > model? > > Regards, > TrungTM > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Koodli, Rajeev <rkoodli@cisco.com> > wrote: > > > > Single prefix on multiple MAGs is clearly one choice. > > > > We agree that the prefix has to be valid on an interface for the > corresponding flow to traverse the MAG. > > If MAG1 has prefix p1 and MAG2 has p2, then the simplest form is p1 > and p2 are valid on both MAG1 and MAG2. > > However, I should also be able to assign p3 to MAG2 (for example), > which you can do today with RFC 5213. > > The prefix p3 does not have to be simultaneously assigned to MAG1. > This should be continued to be allowed with the flow mobility support. > > > > -Rajeev > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: netext-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Laganier, Julien > > Sent: Thu 7/29/2010 4:49 AM > > To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es; Youn-Hee Han > > Cc: netext@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? > > > > Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano wrote: > >> > >> Dear Youn-Hee, > >> > >> On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 21:43 +0900, Youn-Hee Han wrote: > >> > Dear Bernardos, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > I'd like to ask a question about > >> > "draft-bernardos-netext-pmipv6-flowmob-00." > >> > > >> > In the call procedure figure, I noticed that traffic specification > is > >> > delivered to MAG from LMA. > >> > > >> > I understand that the specification should be managed at LMA to do > a > >> > traffic filtering. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > However, is such a traffic filtering still needed at MAG? > >> > >> The MAG needs to know the flow that is gonna be routed through it, > so > >> it can insert the required routing state. > > > > If a single prefix is use across all of the MN accesses then there's > no need for this. > > > >> > IMHO, it is not needed at MAG. If so, why is the specification > >> > delivered to MAG? > >> > >> This is something that can be discussed. The minimum info required > is > >> the MN's prefix of the moved flow, so the route is installed at the > MAG. > >> If finer control is required (e.g., prevent the MN send flows > through a > >> MAG that is not the one the LMA has setup flow mobility state, or > other > >> purposes), then the flow mobility (traffic selector, e.g., 5-tuple) > >> should be delivered to the MAG. > > > > I don't think this is needed. > > > >> > Isn't sufficient that the home network prefix related to the > traffic > >> > is delivered to MAG? > >> > >> That'd be the minimum info. As mentioned before, the MAG may need > the > >> whole flow definition, and in that case the LMA has to deliver that > >> information to the MAG. > > > > If a single prefix is use across all of the MN accesses then there's > no need to do this. > > > > --julien > > _______________________________________________ > > netext mailing list > > netext@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext > > > > _______________________________________________ > > netext mailing list > > netext@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext > > > > > > -- > Ph.D., Senior Member > Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute > Standards Research Center > 161 Gajeong-Dong, Yuseong-Gu, Daejeon, 305-350, KOREA > Tel : +82-42-860-1132, Fax : +82-42-861-5404
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Youn-Hee Han
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- [netext] FW: Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Youn-Hee Han
- [netext] FW: Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Youn-Hee Han
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Koodli, Rajeev
- Re: [netext] FW: Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Tran Minh Trung
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Koodli, Rajeev
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Tran Minh Trung
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Rajeev Koodli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Youn-Hee Han