Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG?
Sri Gundavelli <sgundave@cisco.com> Mon, 09 August 2010 23:02 UTC
Return-Path: <sgundave@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: netext@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: netext@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A623A697F for <netext@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:02:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -10.202
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.397, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iMtRePTfiPbC for <netext@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:02:30 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4663A69E2 for <netext@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:02:30 -0700 (PDT)
Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAD8mYEyrR7Ht/2dsb2JhbACgUXGoFZtbgnGCSQSEJoUVgk4
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,345,1278288000"; d="scan'208";a="169721388"
Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Aug 2010 23:03:04 +0000
Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o79N34vt012786; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 23:03:04 GMT
Received: from xmb-sjc-21b.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.143]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:03:04 -0700
Received: from 10.32.246.211 ([10.32.246.211]) by xmb-sjc-21b.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.143]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 23:03:04 +0000
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.25.0.100505
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:05:24 -0700
From: Sri Gundavelli <sgundave@cisco.com>
To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es, Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya@ieee.org>
Message-ID: <C885D7C4.4740D%sgundave@cisco.com>
Thread-Topic: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG?
Thread-Index: Acs4F1kSmqe4PcHKIkuHb680jWr2WQ==
In-Reply-To: <1281370092.2934.61.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2010 23:03:04.0526 (UTC) FILETIME=[05F0C6E0:01CB3817]
Cc: netext@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG?
X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " <netext.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext>, <mailto:netext-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netext>
List-Post: <mailto:netext@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:netext-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext>, <mailto:netext-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:02:31 -0000
Hi Carlos, I think, the issue is with the TS format field, in the Traffic Selector Mobility option (new option defined by this spec). It has the numbering space. But, does not do any allocations for the existing TS specs. Note that this numbering space is different from the TS format field in Traffic Selector sub-option defined in MEXT flow binding draft Just as in MEXT flow mobility draft, we need to pre-allocate the types for the TS format field, as part of this numbering space. I agree, we dont include the message/format definition, but the identifier allocation is what needed. Format is out of scope, but not the numbering space. We need unique identity for each of the flow spec that can be carried over these options. 1. IPv4 Binary TS 2. IPv6 Binary TS 3. XYZ Regards Sri On 8/9/10 9:08 AM, "Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano" <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 08:33 -0700, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: >> Hi Sri, >> That is not really the point. >> >> The point is that Flow Identification Mobility Option >> defined in draft-ietf-mext-flow-binding-06 >> has a sub-option called >> Traffic Selector sub-option >> >> which can carry the TS. >> >> This is to Carlos: >> Why are we reinventing the wheel? The sub-option has already been defined >> there >> (in Section >> >> 4.2.1.4.)! > > We are not reinventing. We are reusing. It is the same option. We could > even not include the format in the next revision of the flow mobility > draft. The only goal of putting them it was to provide some context in > the -00 version of the draft and to mention that the binary formats > defined in draft-ietf-mext-binary-ts could be used. > > Carlos > >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Behcet >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Sri Gundavelli <sgundave@cisco.com> >>> To: Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya@ieee.org>; cjbc@it.uc3m.es >>> Cc: netext@ietf.org >>> Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 2:38:51 PM >>> Subject: Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? >>> >>> Hi Behcet: >>> >>>>> You are right, we have to leverage the work done in MEXT. The Traffic >>>>> Selectors for IPv4 and IPv6 flows can be from the mext binary TS work. I >>>>> think, Carlos did provide the TS option with a opaque field for >>>>> including >>>>> the filter. >>>> >>>> Current definition is only allowing TS like binary TS of George to be >>>> used. >>>> There could be others like language based flow descriptions proposed in >>>> the >>>> past. Is this reusing mext work? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Sure. Currently, as you say, George's IPv4 and IPv6 binary traffic >>> selectors >>> are referenced as traffic selectors. However, Carlos chose a variable >>> length >>> TS field, so in future we can write Traffic Selectors in English, Spanish, >>> Turkish ... So, if you have one, just write that selector in your favorite >>> metalanguage and carlos can point to that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sri >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Youn-Hee Han
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- [netext] FW: Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Youn-Hee Han
- [netext] FW: Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Youn-Hee Han
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Koodli, Rajeev
- Re: [netext] FW: Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Tran Minh Trung
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Koodli, Rajeev
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Tran Minh Trung
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Rajeev Koodli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Laganier, Julien
- Re: [netext] Needs of traffic spec. on MAG? Youn-Hee Han