Re: [Nethistory] Collecting the history of networking, a possible methodology

George Michaelson <> Sun, 26 May 2013 02:00 UTC

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I said this at the Orlando meeting but I'd like to repeat it here:

There is an entire discipline dedicated to collecting, curating, archiving.

There is an entire discipline dedicated to collecting oral history.

Why does the IETF always have to act as if it, and only it, is capable of
defining how to do _anything_ ?

Instead of beating our heads against the wall 'designing' how to do net
history, why don't we do outreach to the people who have formalized
processes and methods, to collect, collate and archive this kind of thing?

Sometimes, we aren't actually the right people to do things.

Lets get in touch with the Sussex University social history people, the
history of science schools in the US, Asia, and lets get them assigning
their brilliant minds to this problem. They have students, dying for theses
topics, students who need honors projects, busting to be assigned something
juicy to work on.

Lets get them working on us.


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Dave Crocker <> wrote:

> On 5/25/2013 4:59 AM, Jack Haverty wrote:
>> For example, I recently did some garage archaeology and unearthed my
>> notebooks from the late 70s and early 80s with all my notes from various
>> meetings of TCP, IP, ICCB/IAB, and other meetings of the early working
>> groups.  If I scan them before the ink blurs beyond readability, where
>> should I FTP the files...?
> When considering an effort to specify a mechanism, I'm a fan of use cases,
> to guide everyone's thinking.  Use cases are typically simple, concrete,
> direct and realistic.
> The above seems to me to be one of the more iconic examples for the
> current effort.  I'd think that if the effort develops a useful, scalable
> answer, it will have significantly improved the world's long-term archiving
> of Internet historical data.
> What other questions should be on the list?
> d/
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> Dave Crocker
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