Re: [netlmm] Review of LMA Discovery document

Frank Xia <xiayangsong@huawei.com> Wed, 12 May 2010 19:18 UTC

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Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 14:06:03 -0500
From: Frank Xia <xiayangsong@huawei.com>
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Hi Jonne

I posted the scenario, and am waiting for the response
of the technical comments. In fact, I have talked to
some people in the WG off-line, they were wondering why
you objected the DHCP case without convincing reason.

DHCP solution is stated in the WG charter. 
It is not necessary to take all things in the charter as
things keep changing, however, I think we should do adequate 
technical evaluation.

BR
Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Soininen, Jonne (NSN-FI/Espoo) [mailto:Jonne.Soininen@nsn.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:27 PM
To: ext Frank Xia; Vidya Narayanan; 'Behcet Sarikaya'
Cc: netlmm@ietf.org; Jari Arkko
Subject: Re: [netlmm] Review of LMA Discovery document

Frank,

The issue seems to be really between you and us chairs. It seems that the
rest of the WG is not interested. If you have a complaint about our
behavior, please, address our AD, who is in the cc-field.

Please, take this off-line now. I think we (the chairs) have made our
assessment of the situation.

Cheers,

Jonne.


On 5/12/10 5:37 PM, "ext Frank Xia" <xiayangsong@huawei.com> wrote:

> Hi Vidya
> 
> IMHO, "endlessly discussing "only means
> a small tug-of-war between chairs and us.
> 
> You push this topic without pay enough
> attention on technical issues.
> 
> BR
> Frank
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: netlmm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netlmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
Of
> Narayanan, Vidya
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:36 AM
> To: Behcet Sarikaya; Soininen, Jonne (NSN-FI/Espoo)
> Cc: netlmm@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [netlmm] Review of LMA Discovery document
> 
> Behcet,
> We've discussed this topic enough and it's time to move on. As Jonne said,
> there is a WG document and if there is sufficient consensus, things can be
> added/changed there.  However, there isn't sufficient consensus to add
what
> you are asking.  Hence, we need to move on instead of endlessly discussing
> this.  
> 
> Thanks,
> Vidya
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: netlmm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netlmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
Of
> Behcet Sarikaya
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:26 PM
> To: Soininen, Jonne (NSN-FI/Espoo)
> Cc: netlmm@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [netlmm] Review of LMA Discovery document
> 
> Hi Jonne,
>   It is rather strange that we sometimes forget the past.
> 
> Here, as an example, about a year ago this message has been posted on
netlmm
> list:
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netlmm/current/msg06132.html
> 
> which suggested merging the drafts. 
> 
>  At your speed, I bet you next year this time, we are gonna be discussing
> the same things and each side arguing the same way
> J
>  
> while there is such a simple way out.
>  
> Behcet
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> Hi,
> 
> There is no reason to add this document as a reference as it is currently
> not going anywhere. It is not part of any charter and not on an individual
> track either. Thus, it cannot be a reference.
> 
> 
> On 5/5/10 9:35 PM, "ext Behcet Sarikaya" <behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Raj, the right solution is to merge the two drafts.
>> What is the point of talking about caching issues of DNS based LMA
> discovery
>> without giving a solution?
> 
> 
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