Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod-yang-markup-00
Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Thu, 20 April 2017 12:28 UTC
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To: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>, Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net>, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod-yang-markup-00
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Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> writes: > All, > > We're a couple days away from the 2-week window. As of now, the > majority does not support adopting this draft. Any remaining > opinions? > > > Lada, > > The objections seem to be concern for net readability, and for the > importance of the problem relative to other activities. For the > former case, it may help if you posted some examples. For the A typical lightweight markup language is markdown, and I believe most people are familiar with it - if not, examples are easy to find. The bare minimum of markdown features from which even existing modules could benefit may be this: - multiple paragraphs (separated by one or more blank lines) that can be re-flowed - bulleted and numbered lists, possibly with multiple levels and multiple paragraphs per list item - hyperlinks, such as [RFC 7950](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7950) and perhaps also - *emphasis* and **strong emphasis** - code blocks for showing example snippets where line breaks need to be retained. > latter case, we may want to keep this draft cooking in the > background. I am going to use the above conventions in my modules, and support them in my tools. That's basically all what I need for the time being. Lada > > > Kent // as co-chair and potential shepherd > > > > Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net> writes: > >> Andy Bierman writes: >>>IMO it is more robust not to assume people never see the real YANG >>>statements. >> >> Exactly. We made YANG readable so that we wouldn't _need_ to view >> it using tools. This was one of the "insta-death" factors for UML. > > I have to reiterate that the idea is to continue to be able to view YANG > modules *without* using tools, but provide some aid to tools that can make > use of certain well-defined lightweight markup conventions. > > Everybody with a practical experience of converting YANG automatically > to something else (not only to HTML, it starts already with YIN) knows > that transferring descriptions and other similar texts is tricky. > > Lada > >> >> Thanks, >> Phil >> >> _______________________________________________ >> netmod mailing list >> netmod@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > -- > Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs > PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67 > > _______________________________________________ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67
- [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod-yan… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… William Lupton
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Phil Shafer
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Phil Shafer
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] netmod Digest, Vol 109, Issue 17 Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Jonathan Hansford
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] netmod Digest, Vol 109, Issue 17 heasley
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… t.petch
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-lhotka-netmod… Ladislav Lhotka