Re: [netmod] rfc6991bis: inet:host

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Tue, 21 July 2020 19:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netmod] rfc6991bis: inet:host
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:04:55AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> writes:
> 
> >   - Lada suggested to replace the inet:domain-name usage in
> >     the union with a new host-name definition that follows
> >     the NR-LDH definition in RFC 5890.
> >
> >   - Unclear which problem is fixed and how this works from a
> >     backwards compatibility perspective.
> >
> >   - See the thread '6991bis: host' in your private list archive
> >     (I can't find it in the IETF archive)
> >
> >   - I can't tell for sure that Lada's proposal is (i) correct and (ii)
> >     not breaking anything
> >
> >   - Proposal: ?
> 
> Maybe it is better to basically keep the existing inet:domain name for use e.g. in host names that appear in all kinds of non-DNS configuration, and leave the definition of a domain name type appropriate for use in DNS zone data etc. to DNSOP WG.
> 
> So my proposal is to only modify the description accordingly, and in particular remove the comment about the use in A/AAAA/SRV resource records, because the existing type isn't really suitable for this purpose.
>

Can you please send OLD NEW text? I do not really see what needs
changes. Note that this type definition gets tweaked everytime by IESG
members as well.

/js

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