Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

My answer is "yes" but with one qualification: although this
is a separable idea, I don't think we should finalize it
until we have something approaching a consensus on
what we will do to the standards track as a whole.

For example, if we did reduce the standards track to a single
maturity level, the details of the cruft committee's work
would need a little fine tuning.

As to why my answer is "yes", I think this is really a no-brainer.
Having cruft parked on the standards/BCP track is just another
way of confusing the users of IETF documents.

    Brian

scott bradner wrote:
> I'd like to do sort of a last call on the crufty ID
> (draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft-00.txt)
> 
> I do not want to last call the document itself instead I'd like to last 
> call the concept of this document
> 
> so the specific details of the process proposed in the ID are off-topic 
> but the idea of having a process to perform "the downgrading of old
> standards described in RFC 2026, as well as BCPs, without placing
> an unreasonable load on groups charged with performing other tasks in
> the IETF" is in-scope
> 
> consider this question
> 	"should this working group develop process(es) with the aims
> 	 described in the ID draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft-00.txt?"
> 
> please answer with "yes" "no" or "maybe"
> 
> please give a SHORT explanation of why for an answer of "yes" or "no"
> 
> if you answer "maybe" please state why you cannot answer "yes" or "no"
> 
> this sort-of-last-call will end in two weeks (Oct 26) at noon ET
> 
> if there is no clear consensus (or a consensus for "maybe") we can talk
> about the question during the newtrk session in DC, if there is a clear 
> consensus of "no" we will drop the idea, and if the clear consensus 
> is "yes" we will then discuss the specifics of the proposal.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Scott
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