Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call
"Kurt D. Zeilenga" <Kurt@OpenLDAP.org> Wed, 13 October 2004 22:20 UTC
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From: "Kurt D. Zeilenga" <Kurt@OpenLDAP.org>
Subject: Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call
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Yes. I believe there is far too much cruft on the standards track and we find a non-burdensome way to remove it. The current practice, publish an RFC to move RFC(s) to Historic, is simply too burdensome in the case of cruft. I think the approach outlined in the cruft I-D is workable. Kurt At 10:26 AM 10/12/2004, scott bradner wrote: >I'd like to do sort of a last call on the crufty ID >(draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft-00.txt) > >I do not want to last call the document itself instead I'd like to last >call the concept of this document > >so the specific details of the process proposed in the ID are off-topic >but the idea of having a process to perform "the downgrading of old >standards described in RFC 2026, as well as BCPs, without placing >an unreasonable load on groups charged with performing other tasks in >the IETF" is in-scope > >consider this question > "should this working group develop process(es) with the aims > described in the ID draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft-00.txt?" > >please answer with "yes" "no" or "maybe" > >please give a SHORT explanation of why for an answer of "yes" or "no" > >if you answer "maybe" please state why you cannot answer "yes" or "no" > >this sort-of-last-call will end in two weeks (Oct 26) at noon ET > >if there is no clear consensus (or a consensus for "maybe") we can talk >about the question during the newtrk session in DC, if there is a clear >consensus of "no" we will drop the idea, and if the clear consensus >is "yes" we will then discuss the specifics of the proposal. > >thanks > >Scott >. >newtrk resources:_____________________________________________________ >web user interface: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk.html >mhonarc archive: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk/index.html . newtrk resources:_____________________________________________________ web user interface: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk.html mhonarc archive: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk/index.html
- RE: [newtrk] a crufty last call Larry Masinter
- [newtrk] a crufty last call scott bradner
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Eliot Lear
- RE: [newtrk] a crufty last call john.loughney
- RE: [newtrk] a crufty last call Lars-Erik Jonsson (LU/EAB)
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Susan Harris
- Timing (Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call) Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [newtrk] a crufty last call Christian Huitema
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Kurt D. Zeilenga
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Paul Hoffman / VPNC
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call David Meyer
- Re: Timing (Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call) Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Eliot Lear
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Alex Rousskov
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Pekka Savola
- Re: [newtrk] a crufty last call Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [newtrk] a crufty last call Larry Masinter
- RE: [newtrk] a crufty last call john.loughney
- RE: [newtrk] a crufty last call Pekka Savola