Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor Versions, Extended Attributes, and ACLs / Umask - Ends Dec 2nd 2016
spencer shepler <spencer.shepler@gmail.com> Wed, 07 December 2016 18:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor Versions, Extended Attributes, and ACLs / Umask - Ends Dec 2nd 2016
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Even though David responded, the question is for the document authors. My apologies for being opaque about "stable reference". The POSIX-1003.1e normative reference makes it appear that it is a Posix standards document while in the content of the reference it does state "withdrawn" - confusing. The other problem is that I cannot quickly locate a copy of that document and if it is going to be a normative reference then it needs to be reasonably available. I understand that it is a defacto standard at this point given the implementation. My main point is that if it is going to be a reference a target needs to exist and the naming should likely be changed to remove the implication that it is a Posix standard. As mentioned, if the reference is not needed based on the contents of the I-D, then the I-D can be reworded and references removed or changed. Spencer On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:43 AM, David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not sure about the mechanics of providing a "stable" reference. > Certainly that specific draft is not subject to change. > > An interesting alternative would be a reference based on > https://linux.die.net/man/5/acl. I'm not sure about copyright issues > that might arise in creating a stable reference based on this material, > but note that Andreas is listed as the author of that man > page :-) > > There's a lot of work for lawyers involved in issues like this. That > doesn't bother me as much as it used to now that my > daughter is in law school. > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Spencer Shepler <sshepler@microsoft.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> Bruce, >> >> >> >> For the umask I-D, there is a normative reference for "POSIX 1003.1e >> Withdrawn Draft 17". >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, without a stable reference, we will need to remove that >> from the document. Do you have an alternative document that provides the >> needed background or is this needed in the I-D? >> >> >> >> Spencer >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* nfsv4 [mailto:nfsv4-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Spencer >> Shepler >> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:00 PM >> *To:* NFSv4 <nfsv4@ietf.org> >> *Subject:* [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor Versions, >> Extended Attributes, and ACLs / Umask - Ends Dec 2nd 2016 >> >> >> >> >> >> This is the announcement of the working group last call for the 3 working >> group drafts listed below. >> >> >> >> Accounting for the review of 3 documents and the upcoming US holiday, the >> last call will end on Dec 2nd 2016. >> >> >> >> If more time is needed for review, let me know. >> >> >> >> Please provide comments and review feedback to the authors of these >> documents. Substantive comments or feedback should include the working >> group alias. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Spencer >> >> >> >> Rules for NFSv4 Extensions and Minor Versions ( >> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioning-07.txt >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fid%2Fdraft-ietf-nfsv4-versioning-07.txt&data=01%7C01%7Csshepler%40microsoft.com%7Cc1092553ded943ce3bd708d409b4e049%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1&sdata=n6i4%2BiJnf8qUycmjSRQQkrR3zd0%2BCNb2XK292W6dMok%3D&reserved=0> >> ) >> >> File System Extended Attributes in NFSv4 (https://www.ietf.org/id/draft >> -ietf-nfsv4-xattrs-03.txt >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fid%2Fdraft-ietf-nfsv4-xattrs-03.txt&data=01%7C01%7Csshepler%40microsoft.com%7Cc1092553ded943ce3bd708d409b4e049%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1&sdata=sRUZotSPwf89NbIaX72aS4e9wCJT%2B2CcBse9GT0iNBE%3D&reserved=0> >> ) >> >> Allowing inheritable NFSv4 ACLs to override the umask ( >> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-nfsv4-umask-02.txt) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nfsv4 mailing list >> nfsv4@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > nfsv4 mailing list > nfsv4@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 > >
- [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor Vers… Spencer Shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … Marcel Telka
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … Spencer Shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … spencer shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … spencer shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] WG Last Call for Extension and Minor … J. Bruce Fields