RE: [NSIS] Draft on NSIS Operation Over IP Tunnels

"Hancock, Robert" <robert.hancock@roke.co.uk> Sat, 30 July 2005 13:21 UTC

Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyrHF-0000nt-3x; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 09:21:21 -0400
Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyrHC-0000nJ-3N for nsis@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 09:21:18 -0400
Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA09278 for <nsis@ietf.org>; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 09:21:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from rsys001x.roke.co.uk ([193.118.201.108]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dyrn1-0002jt-S8 for nsis@ietf.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 09:54:14 -0400
Received: from rsys005a.comm.ad.roke.co.uk ([193.118.193.85]) by rsys001x.roke.co.uk (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j6UDK8Ft017185; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:20:08 +0100
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0
Received: from ac78840 (orion.roke.co.uk [193.118.192.66]) by rsys002a.roke.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id PJSG145K; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:22:46 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
Subject: RE: [NSIS] Draft on NSIS Operation Over IP Tunnels
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:20:04 +0100
Message-ID: <006301c59509$664bdfe0$e71fff56@comm.ad.roke.co.uk>
Thread-Topic: [NSIS] Draft on NSIS Operation Over IP Tunnels
Thread-Index: AcWVCcZTKJOr951xTNiQin3T8AU76w==
From: "Hancock, Robert" <robert.hancock@roke.co.uk>
To: john.loughney@nokia.com, charles@cs.columbia.edu, nsis@ietf.org
X-MailScanner-rsys001x: Found to be clean
X-MailScanner-From: robert.hancock@roke.co.uk
X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: bc102ac530ba955ef81f1f75b8bebe44
Cc:
X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling <nsis.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis>, <mailto:nsis-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:nsis@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:nsis-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis>, <mailto:nsis-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1678563078=="
Sender: nsis-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: nsis-bounces@ietf.org

Hi,

One thing it would be interesting to get the viewpoints of the
various sets of authors on is whether the use case for the
BOUND_FLOW_SESSION (in this draft) is related to the use case
for the "Filter List" from draft-cheng-nsis-flowid-issues-01.txt
or "Path Type" from draft-sanda-nsis-path-type-02.txt. All of
these things seem to be about ways to link together multiple
signalling sessions in various ways. One feels that generic 
(multi-NSLP) solutions should be possible, but it is not clear
to me exactly how many different problems there are (or how
many different solutions are needed).

Robert H.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsis-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:nsis-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> Behalf Of john.loughney@nokia.com
> Sent: 30 July 2005 11:09
> To: charles@cs.columbia.edu; nsis@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [NSIS] Draft on NSIS Operation Over IP Tunnels
> 
> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
> Thanks for the draft, I think this is quite a useful 
> analysis.  As tunneling, like multihoming, can be related to 
> mobility, I wonder if the analysis could go into the Mobility 
> Applicability Statement document.  
> 
> After that, for the BOUND_FLOW_SESSION object, do you think 
> that this would be a general object for all NSLPs that might 
> run over a tunnel?  One option would be to add this to the 
> existing NSLPs, or to write a very short document registering 
> this as a NSLP object in the NSIS IANA registry (when there is one).
> 
> What does the rest of the wg think?
> 
> thanks,
> John
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nsis-bounces@ietf.org 
> [mailto:nsis-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of 
> > ext Charles Shen
> > Sent: 14 July, 2005 07:45
> > To: nsis@ietf.org
> > Subject: [NSIS] Draft on NSIS Operation Over IP Tunnels
> > 
> > 
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > We've submitted a draft on "NSIS Operation Over IP Tunnels".
> > The abstract is
> > as follows:
> > 
> >    In this draft we briefly review various IP Tunnelling
> > mechanisms and
> >    discuss the main problems with signaling operation over 
> IP tunnels.
> >    We also summarize the existing RSVP operation over IP tunnels
> >    mechanism.  Then we present the design details and case 
> examples of
> >    an NSIS operation over IP tunnels scheme.  QoS NSLP is 
> > assumed as the
> >    NSIS signaling application in our discussion.
> > 
> > The document is available at
> > 
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-shen-nsis-tunnel-00.txt
> > 
> > Any comments are greatly appreciated!
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Charles
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > nsis mailing list
> > nsis@ietf.org
> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nsis mailing list
> nsis@ietf.org
> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis
> 
_______________________________________________
nsis mailing list
nsis@ietf.org
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis