Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to NTPv5
Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com> Mon, 30 November 2020 11:51 UTC
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 12:51:40 +0100
From: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
To: Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to NTPv5
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On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 08:43:32PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 12:49:09AM +0900, g16 wrote: > > So I surveyed how the currently public NTP servers respond to NTPv5 packets. > > The draft document probably doesn't make things better. It says to > just drop the packet in case the version is higher than 5, nor My intention was to let the future NTPv6 specification describe how older versions should be handled in the same way this draft allows an NTPv5 server handle requests with versions 4 and older. > does it have any text on what a client could do to talk to a > server that supports older versions. The client could try NTPv5 and see if it gets a valid response. This would be similar to the proposed detection of the alternative port. > So in case a version 6 is ever > introduced, first the stratum 1 servers have to upgrade, then the > stratum 2 servers, and so on. I hope that won't be necessary. -- Miroslav Lichvar
- [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to NTPv5 g16
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Kurt Roeckx
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Public NTP servers already resp… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … g16
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Danny Mayer
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Danny Mayer
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers already … Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers alre… Danny Mayer
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers alre… Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers alre… Danny Mayer
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Watson Ladd
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … James Browning
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP server… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers alre… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Miroslav Lichvar
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP server… Ulrich Windl
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers already … Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP se… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers alre… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP se… Doug Arnold
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Doug Arnold
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Philip Prindeville
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Doug Arnold
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers already … Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers alre… Hal Murray
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP server… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers alre… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Public NTP servers alre… g16
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Philip Prindeville
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Philip Prindeville
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] Public NTP servers already responds to … Salz, Rich
- [Ntp] Antwort: Re: Public NTP servers already res… kristof.teichel