Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP?
Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> Tue, 08 December 2020 23:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP?
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Harlan Stenn said: >, the behavior will be different and there will be train wrecks. One man's train wreck is another man's innovation. How do I decide if I'm allowed to implement a feature/idea that isn't mentioned in the RFC? Temperature compensation is the obvious example. > NTP is all about a defined impulse response. Then an RFC should describe the constraints, not bury it as an obscure parameter hidden deep inside an algorithm. kurt@roeckx.be said: > I think defining NTP as a impulse response is the wrong approach. It's an > implementation detail. If other systems use different algorithms, it should > only have an effect on the uncertainty. If it causes big problems, it's an > implementation problem. Not quite. It's easy to get problems when chaining PLLs. I don't understand it well enough to explain and I don't have a handy reference. The typical problem is that somebody tweaks a time constant so his system recovers faster, then months later something crazy happens when triggered by the right input data. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.
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- Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP? Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP? Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP? Kurt Roeckx
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Compensation fo… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP? Philip Prindeville
- Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP? Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP? Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP? Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP? Hal Murray
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Compensation fo… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Compensatio… FUSTE Emmanuel
- [Ntp] Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Co… kristof.teichel
- Re: [Ntp] Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperatur… Magnus Danielson
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Temp… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: … Magnus Danielson
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: … Warner Losh
- Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP? Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperatur… Philip Prindeville
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: … Magnus Danielson
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: … Martin Burnicki
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Compensation fo… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Compensatio… Magnus Danielson
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Compensatio… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Compensatio… Ulrich Windl