Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP?
Harlan Stenn <stenn@nwtime.org> Tue, 08 December 2020 21:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP?
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On 12/8/2020 1:44 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > philipp@redfish-solutions.com said: >> Given we have better understanding now of the thermal stability of solid >> state (crystal) oscillators, why not include that into the algorithm if we’re >> going to flesh it out specifically? > > I think the algorithm(s) should be split out to a separate document, if any. In which case somebody will only implement the protocol and do whatever they want with the algorithms, and clients will connect to this server and there will be a significant chance that because of the different algorithms, the behavior will be different and there will be train wrecks. We've already seen what happens when people put leap smearing servers on the public internet, and somebody says "Oh, I got bitten by not having enough servers last time, so I'll use 4 now" and then the learned that during the next leap event two of their upstreams offered correct time while 2 offered smeared time, so "no consensus" on time and off they went. Different timing algorithms will cause much bigger problems. NTP is all about a defined impulse response. -- Harlan Stenn <stenn@nwtime.org> http://networktimefoundation.org - be a member!
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- Re: [Ntp] Temperature Compensation for NTP? Kurt Roeckx
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- Re: [Ntp] Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperatur… Magnus Danielson
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Temp… Ulrich Windl
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- Re: [Ntp] Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperatur… Philip Prindeville
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: … Magnus Danielson
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antwort: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: … Martin Burnicki
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Compensation fo… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Compensatio… Magnus Danielson
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Temperature Compensatio… Kurt Roeckx
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