Re: [Ntp] SNTP, Old crufty software

James Browning <jamesb.fe80@gmail.com> Fri, 12 August 2022 11:34 UTC

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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 04:34:20 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] SNTP, Old crufty software
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 04:06 James <james.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> What (dis)incentives are there for the people and companies writing,
> reusing, deploying code still using these protocols to work on them? I'm
> not sure there is many given "it still just works". A well defined carrot
> (e.g. a simpler/secure/etc protocol) or stick (popular public time services
> ceasing support for legacy protocols) are the only dimensions I can think
> of here.
>
> I'm not sure the effort of trying to -bis SNTP is as beneficial as
> advancing newer work like Roughtime and its implementations, combined with
> BCPs or other such guidance that dissuade future use of these older
> protocols.
>

We had simpler protocols that turned out to be amplifiers, I tried killing
off the broken crap in NTPsec before having the 'stick' taken away and
being beaten with it.

>