Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - call for review
Emmanuel Lochin <emmanuel.lochin@isae-supaero.fr> Wed, 14 November 2018 06:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - call for review
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Hi Marie-Jo, all, Following one of your request, we (Muriel, I and others) did the work in 2013 to reference NC papers as the one below. It was expected to store (and update) the list over a wiki page. May be this will be a good thing for newcomers in the group to have this list. EL Le 14/11/2018 à 04:28, Marie-Jose Montpetit a écrit : > Yes this is a study done a few years ago. > > Marie-José Montpetit > marie@mjmontpetit.com > mariejo@mit.edu > >> On Nov 13, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Lloyd Wood <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Likely relevant to this draft: >> >> >> Can network coding bridge the digital divide in the Pacific?, Spiedel et al., >> International Symposium on Network Coding (NetCod), Sydney, June 2015. >> >> >> http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.01048 >> http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/NETCOD.2015.7176795 >> https://internetnz.nz/sites/default/files/IR201404%20-%20University%20of%20Auckland%20-%20FINAL%20REPORT%20April%202015.pdf >> https://conference.apnic.net/data/41/apricot-talk_1451964216_1456023873.pdf >> >> My take from years of using a very large number of TCP accelerators across satellite >> links is that: >> >> - the performance benefits from the local file/stream/chunk/'object' rapid fetch >> from Internet side and cached delivery that they offer for the satellite link >> will far outweigh benefits of network coding across the path and its virtual >> 'erasure channel' for responsiveness, but that's hard to see from a throughput >> graph. >> >> >> - the over-satellite-link FEC feature offered is rarely that useful in practice, >> as channel coding makes it largely redundant. If the PEP accelerator FEC becomes >> >> useful, the channel coding needs to be adjusted for the SNR, and that's often >> >> a local ACM problem, e.g. heavy rain fade at Ka-band, which the O3b example used >> in the paper suffers from. >> >> - there's a whole bunch of tuning of traffic for the offered satellite link >> capacity (QoS, prioritisation, shaping, etc) brought to the table by PEPs >> that network coding cannot consider. Sometimes this gets called 'Orchestration', >> though that means different things to different communities. >> >> >> oh, draft typo: writting->writing. Haven't had the time to reread >> and think about the whole draft revision yet. >> >> L. >> >> Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk http://about.me/lloydwood >> >> >> >> ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > nwcrg mailing list > nwcrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nwcrg -- Emmanuel LOCHIN Professeur ISAE ISAE SUPAERO - Institut Supérieur de l'Aéronautique et de l'Espace 10 avenue Edouard Belin - BP 54032 - 31055 TOULOUSE CEDEX 4 FRANCE - http://www.isae-supaero.fr Tel +33 5 61 33 84 85 - Fax (+33) 5 61 33 83 45 Web : http://personnel.isae.fr/emmanuel-lochin/ "Tomorrow is our purpose": découvrez le nouveau film de marque de l'ISAE-SUPAERO ! discover the new ISAE-SUPAERO brand film!
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Kuhn Nicolas
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Tomaso.deCola
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Kuhn Nicolas
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Tomaso.deCola
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Kuhn Nicolas
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Emmanuel Lochin
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Lloyd Wood
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Muriel Medard
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Emmanuel Lochin
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [nwcrg] [dtn] Network Coding and SATCOM - cal… Kerim Fouli