Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of -22

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Wed, 02 November 2011 20:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of -22
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Hi Torsten,

On 11/02/2011 07:45 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> I'm concerned about your proposal (7) to make support for MAC a MUST for
> clients and BEARER a MAY only. In my opinion, this does not reflect the
> group's consensus.

That wasn't quite my comment, which is below:

    (7) Doesn't 7.1 need to say which token types are MTI so that we
    get interop?  I think I'd like to see mac being a MUST and bearer
    being a MAY but regardless of my preference, I don't think you
    can be silent on this. And as a consequence one or both of
    the mac/bearer drafts need to end up as normative.

 > Beside this, the security threat analysis justifies
> usage of BEARER for nearly all use cases as long as HTTPS (incl. server
> authentication) can be utilized.

As I said, I personally prefer the mac scheme since it demonstrates
use of a key. However, as I also said, the main concern with this
point is interop. (I do note though that bearer has server-auth TLS
as a MUST USE, so the implication of making bearer a MUST is that
TLS is MTI for the base spec too and a MUST USE for anything
involving the MTI token type.)

In any case I can live with it so long as the set of things that
are MTI is clear.

Incidentally, I don't believe any amount of +1 messages to your
mail answer my point above. As Eran's mail asks: what is it
that you're suggesting be MTI for whom?

S.

>
> regards,
> Torsten.
>
>
> Am 13.10.2011 19:13, schrieb Stephen Farrell:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Sorry for having been quite slow with this, but I had a bunch
>> of travel recently.
>>
>> Anyway, my AD comments on -22 are attached. I think that the
>> first list has the ones that need some change before we push
>> this out for IETF LC, there might or might not be something
>> to change as a result of the 2nd list of questions and the
>> rest are really nits can be handled either now or later.
>>
>> Thanks for all your work on this so far - its nearly there
>> IMO and we should be able to get the IETF LC started once
>> these few things are dealt with.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> S.
>>
>>
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