Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature

Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> Fri, 08 October 2021 21:06 UTC

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From: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 14:06:10 -0700
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature
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On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 2:00 PM Richard Backman, Annabelle <
richanna@amazon.com> wrote:

> IE, if the success of HTTP Signing is tied to the OAuth WG adopting the
> draft, then Mike's arguments about the WG already doing this work is valid.
>
>
> It's not the success of HTTP Message Signatures that concerns me here;
> that draft will reach RFC regardless of what the OAuth WG does.
>

Maybe, maybe not. And then having adoption and proving that all the other
concerns raised on the list such as canonicalization challenges are moot.


> But I and others would like to use Message Signatures with OAuth 2.0, and
> would like to have some confidence that there will be a standard,
> interoperable way to do that.
>
> There are other, non-OAuth 2.0 use cases for HTTP Message Signatures. I
> don't see the rationale behind waiting for implementations for completely
> unrelated use cases, or by parties that aren't using OAuth 2.0 for
> authorization. How are they relevant?
>

The proposal is to build upon a general purpose security mechanism. I would
like to see that general purpose security mechanism proven before building
upon it.

/Dick
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