Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption

Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> Wed, 20 January 2016 13:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption
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+1

Inline discovery and pre-configured discovery (ie, .well-known) should 
at the very least be compatible and developed together. It's the 
pre-configured discovery document that's at the root of the mix-up 
attack in the first place.

  -- Justin

On 1/19/2016 10:30 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:
> Just to give more context, at IETF 94, I have done a presentation on 
> discovery.
>
> According to the minutes,
>
>      (f) Discovery (Nat)
>            
>               Nat explains his document as an example of the work that has to be done
>               in the area of discovery, which is a topic that has been identified
>               as necessary for interoperability since many years but so far there
>               was not time to work on it. Mike, John and Nat are working on a new
>               document that describes additional discovery-relevant components.
>            
>               Poll: 19 for / zero against / 4 persons need more information.
> The document discussed there was 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sakimura-oauth-meta-05. This is a 
> simple (only 1-page!) but a very powerful document that nudges towards 
> HATEOAS which is at the core of RESTful-ness. It also mitigates the 
> Mix-up attack without introducing the concept of issuer which is not 
> in RFC6749. It is also good for selecting different endpoints 
> depending on the user authentication and authorization results and 
> more privacy sensitive than pre-announced Discovery document. It also 
> allows you to find to which protected resource endpoint you can use 
> the access token against.
>
> In the last sentence of the minutes, it talks about "a new document 
> that describes additional discovery-relevant components". This is 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-oauth-discovery-00.  It went 
> for the call for adoption. However, it is only a half of the story. I 
> believe https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sakimura-oauth-meta-05 that 
> was discussed at IETF 94 and had support there should be adopted as well.
>
> Nat Sakimura
>
>
>
>
> 2016年1月20日(水) 12:05 Nat Sakimura <sakimura@gmail.com 
> <mailto:sakimura@gmail.com>>:
>
>     Thanks Hannes.
>
>     I did not find
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sakimura-oauth-meta-05, which
>     was discussed in Yokohama, and was largely in agreement if my
>     recollection is correct. Why is it not in the call for adoption?
>
>
>
>     2016年1月19日(火) 20:39 Hannes Tschofenig
>     <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net <mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>>:
>
>         Hi all,
>
>         we have submitted our new charter to the IESG (see
>         http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg15379.html)
>         and
>         since some IESG members like to see an updated list of
>         milestones as
>         well. For this reason, based on a suggestion from Barry, we
>         are also
>         starting a call for adoption concurrently with the review of
>         the charter
>         text by the IESG.
>
>         We will post separate mails on the individual documents. Your
>         feedback
>         is important! Please take the time to look at the documents
>         and provide
>         your feedback.
>
>         Ciao
>         Hannes & Derek
>
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