Re: [openpgp] Can the OpenPGP vs. S/MIME situation be fixed?

Stephen Paul Weber <singpolyma@singpolyma.net> Thu, 04 August 2016 14:35 UTC

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>I think it was a big mistake to create two competing standards in the
>first place, but that was back in the 90s. So we may ask if we want to
>live forever with this situation or if it can be fixed.

If we can convince any CAs to start issuing OpenPGP signatures, then OpenPGP 
already has the features to support this mode of operation.  So it's really 
just about formats / software support, etc.

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