Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple"
Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> Tue, 17 March 2015 20:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple"
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:15, coruus@gmail.com said: > Is there an option to completely disable this? Relatedly, is there any > option to not use new-format partial lengths? No. In fact I started with GnuPG before OpenPGP and one of the first additions to the RFC-1991 PGP-2 format was my own version of partial lengths. This has been removed in favor of the OpenPGP and PGP-5 partial length format. You really really want partial length. A major problem with PGP-2 was that it required large temporary files for certain operations - you can't do backups this way. Up until DKIM all Internet protocols have been carefully designed to allow streaming of data (ie. the Unix way) and the IETF should continue to stress the importance of this. > Partial lengths are really a nuisance to parse. Yeah the OpenPGP encoding is a bit over-engineered to save octets. But even its partial format is easier to implement than the HTTP counterpart. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz.
- [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Stephen Paul Weber
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Wyllys Ingersoll
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Stephen Paul Weber
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Stephen Paul Weber
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" David Leon Gil
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" David Shaw
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" David Leon Gil
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" David Shaw
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Christoph Anton Mitterer
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Tim Bray
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Wyllys Ingersoll
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Nicholas Cole
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Phill
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Derek Atkins
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Stephen Paul Weber
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Stephen Paul Weber
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Stephen Paul Weber
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Wyllys Ingersoll
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Derek Atkins
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" David Shaw
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Derek Atkins
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Wyllys Ingersoll
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Stephen Paul Weber
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Christoph Anton Mitterer
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Christoph Anton Mitterer
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Derek Atkins
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Derek Atkins
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Phillip Hallam-Baker
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- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Peter Gutmann
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- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Peter Gutmann
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- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [openpgp] "OpenPGP Simple" Christoph Anton Mitterer
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