Re: [OPSAWG] please see draft-lear-opsawg-ol on licensing

tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Fri, 28 May 2021 15:52 UTC

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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
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From: OPSAWG <opsawg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
Sent: 28 May 2021 15:41

Re-,

Agree it extends, but unless I'm mistaken we don’t have yet those tags (draft-kuehlewind-update-tag).

<tp>
Well-formed I-D should explain how they update what they claim to update.  This one does, sort of, in the Introduction.  What is missing is text such as
Section.x.y of RFC8520 is updated to include the following paragraph
"Those generating MUD files SHOULD use the owner-license [RFCxxxx] extension unless ...2 

Tom Petch

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Michael Richardson [mailto:mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca]
> Envoyé : vendredi 28 mai 2021 16:28
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> Cc : Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch>; opsawg@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [OPSAWG] please see draft-lear-opsawg-ol on licensing
>
>
> <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
>     >> > That's said, this draft does not update 8520. I suggest to
> remove
>     >> "Updates: 8520 (if approved)"
>
>     > [Med] I guess this is covered by on one of your replies below,
> but
>     > still don't see which part in 8520 is updated here. If you have
> an
>     > excerpt to share, that would be helpful.
>
> It does not Amend. It Extends.
>
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT
> consulting )
>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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