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Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-06 Contributions, Status and Plans

Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Tue, 16 May 2017 16:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-06 Contributions, Status and Plans
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On May 16, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Ignas Bagdonas <ibagdona.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>    I don't see how reviews (which were ignored) can be construed as "no evidence" that the authors were ignoring reviews.
>> 
>>   Which was my point.  If document authors issue new revs irrespective of what the WG suggests, the chairs should replace the authors with ones who work towards WG consensus.
> 
> No-one has seen the -07 revision yet, therefore it seems to be too early to make judgement whether comments and suggestions were or were not addressed. Authors have promised to address the raised comments discussing them on the list and responding to previous reviews.

  My comments (again) were that there was a history of ignoring the reviews.  At the time I made that comment, it was true.  I find it troubling to see a response saying there's "no evidence" of such a problem.

>>   The alternative is to accept a draft as a WG document, and then to allow the authors to do pretty much whatever they want, and then to rubber-stamp the final document as an RFC.
> 
> That is not how the IETF works. I fail to see what else could be commented here.

  I'm saying until I complained, that *was* largely the process being used in this WG.

  Alan DeKok.

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