Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-06 Contributions, Status and Plans

t.petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Fri, 19 May 2017 10:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-06 Contributions, Status and Plans
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan DeKok" <aland@deployingradius.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:40 PM

On May 18, 2017, at 12:57 PM, t.petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> wrote: of
thought.
>
> This I-D, as Alan has commented and Doug acknowledges, has several
> places where the description of security is more 1997 than 2017.  If
we
> turn such parts into a clear, concise specification, we may then find
> that we have wasted our time since the Security Directorate then says
> that no
> way can that appear in an RFC, even an Informational one.

  They've approved RADIUS RFCs... by holding their nose.

> Would it be worth seeking guidance now on what is or is not likely to
be
> acceptable to a Security Directorate review?  Not a line by line
> analysis but rather
> higher level guidance as to whether such things as MD4, ASCII login,
> RFC2433 as Best Practice and so on can appear.

  I've been on the Security Directorate for a while now.  While I don't
claim to speak for everyone, I think the current approach in the draft
will be fine.

<tp>
Ah, I did not know that.

Scrub my suggestion (while I hold my nose:-)

Tom Petch

p.s.  I notice that one of the addressees is now OOPS A WG; mmm, yes.

  They may ask for some sections to be removed (i.e. servers pushing
keys to clients). But everything else is pretty much fine.

  The idea is that having a documented protocol, with warnings and
caveats, is much better than an undocumented one.

  Alan DeKok.