Re: [OPSEC] Ted Lemon's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Sun, 08 February 2015 18:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Ted Lemon's Discuss on draft-ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 02/08/2015 04:03 AM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Feb 7, 2015, at 10:37 PM, C. M. Heard <heard@pobox.com> wrote:
>> That is incorrect because extension headers and upper layer headers 
>> share a numbering space.  Upper layer headers do NOT follow the 
>> format in RFC 6564.  That makes it in UNSAFE to attempt to skip over 
>> an unknown next header value.
> 
> I addressed that in my DISCUSS position.   The fact that RA guard gives bad advice is no reason for the bad advice to be repeated in this document.

The advice in RA-Guard in DHCPv6-shield is essentially 6man's advice on
the topic: RFC7045. That's why we provide RFC7045 as a reference.

If you don't like what the current version of the I-D says, you're not
only disagreeing with it and with the "RA-Guard IMplementation advice"
RFC, but also with the advice that 6man itself has produced on the topic
(RFC7045).

Thanks,
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Fernando Gont
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