Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Tue, 18 April 2017 13:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6
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On 04/18/2017 02:15 PM, otroan@employees.org wrote:
> Fernando,
> 
>>>>> The ping pong attack is mitigated in RFC4443.
>>>> 
>>>> I must be missing something.. what does RFC4443 have to do with
>>>> this? A ping pong attack does not require the attack packets to
>>>> be ICMPv6 echo requests...
>>> 
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4443#section-3.1 One specific case
>>> in which a Destination Unreachable message is sent with a code 3
>>> is in response to a packet received by a router from a 
>>> point-to-point link, destined to an address within a subnet
>>> assigned to that same link (other than one of the receiving
>>> router's own addresses).  In such a case, the packet MUST NOT be
>>> forwarded back onto the arrival link.
>>> 
>>> Most implementations I'm aware of now implement this.
>> 
>> Why wouldn't an attacker send *any* packet meant for the p2p link,
>> but that not correspond to the address of any of the two
>> endpoints?
>> 
>> i.e., I don't see the need to focus on a specific kind of packet...
>> I guess I'm missing something?
> 
> Yes, you are missing something. RFC4443 specifies what behaviour
> should be if a router receives a packet on a point to point link that
> would end up being forwarded back out the same link. The specified
> behaviour is drop and send destination unreachable. That solves the
> problem for any packet obviously. And any prefix length assigned to
> the link.

How could RFC4443 possibly address this for all packets without formally
updating RFC2460?

P.S.: For a specification pov, this shouldn't be buried in RFC4443, and,
as noted, no matter where this "patch" is specified, such doc should
certainly update RFC2460.

Thanks!

Cheers,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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