Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6
Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Tue, 18 April 2017 13:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6
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On 04/18/2017 02:15 PM, otroan@employees.org wrote: > Fernando, > >>>>> The ping pong attack is mitigated in RFC4443. >>>> >>>> I must be missing something.. what does RFC4443 have to do with >>>> this? A ping pong attack does not require the attack packets to >>>> be ICMPv6 echo requests... >>> >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4443#section-3.1 One specific case >>> in which a Destination Unreachable message is sent with a code 3 >>> is in response to a packet received by a router from a >>> point-to-point link, destined to an address within a subnet >>> assigned to that same link (other than one of the receiving >>> router's own addresses). In such a case, the packet MUST NOT be >>> forwarded back onto the arrival link. >>> >>> Most implementations I'm aware of now implement this. >> >> Why wouldn't an attacker send *any* packet meant for the p2p link, >> but that not correspond to the address of any of the two >> endpoints? >> >> i.e., I don't see the need to focus on a specific kind of packet... >> I guess I'm missing something? > > Yes, you are missing something. RFC4443 specifies what behaviour > should be if a router receives a packet on a point to point link that > would end up being forwarded back out the same link. The specified > behaviour is drop and send destination unreachable. That solves the > problem for any packet obviously. And any prefix length assigned to > the link. How could RFC4443 possibly address this for all packets without formally updating RFC2460? P.S.: For a specification pov, this shouldn't be buried in RFC4443, and, as noted, no matter where this "patch" is specified, such doc should certainly update RFC2460. Thanks! Cheers, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
- [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Gunter Van De Velde
- Re: [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Ron Bonica
- Re: [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Ron Bonica
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] Fwd: WGLC for draft-ietf-opse… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [OPSEC] FW: [ALU] Re: [v6ops] Fwd: WGLC for d… Erik Kline
- [OPSEC] FW: [ALU] Re: [v6ops] Fwd: WGLC for draft… Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [OPSEC] Fwd: Re: [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opse… Fernando Gont
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 otroan
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] Fwd: WGLC for draft-ietf-opse… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 otroan
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Fernando Gont
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 otroan
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Fernando Gont
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 otroan
- Re: [OPSEC] [ALU] Re: [v6ops] Fwd: WGLC for draft… Merike Kaeo
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Fernando Gont
- Re: [OPSEC] [ALU] Re: [v6ops] Fwd: WGLC for draft… Merike Kaeo
- [OPSEC] ULAs [was WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] ULAs [was WGLC for draft-ietf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [OPSEC] ULAs [was WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v… james woodyatt
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] ULAs [was WGLC for draft-ietf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 神明達哉
- Re: [OPSEC] [v6ops] ULAs [was WGLC for draft-ietf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Merike Kaeo
- Re: [OPSEC] [ALU] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [OPSEC] [ALU] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Merike Kaeo
- Re: [OPSEC] [ALU] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Fernando Gont
- Re: [OPSEC] [ALU] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Tobias Fiebig
- Re: [OPSEC] [ALU] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Merike Kaeo
- Re: [OPSEC] [ALU] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 Merike Kaeo