Re: people CN
Andrew Waugh <A.Waugh@mel.dit.csiro.au> Thu, 26 November 1992 00:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: people CN
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From: Andrew Waugh <A.Waugh@mel.dit.csiro.au>
Paul, > Preparing a new stage in the X.500 deployement within INRIA we are > faced with the following difficult issue about people naming. > being a large institution, we have to establish naming guidelines > o able to cope with several staff with the same Diven and Surname, > and easy enough > o easy enough to be understood by internal and external DUA > human users > o regular enough, for name-server type of usage (eg MHS routing) [ a large number of restrictions deleted... ] Given the number of restrictions, I don't think any system is going to satisfy :-) I must admit that I cannot stand using arbitrary suffixes: cn=Andrew Waugh%dis=1 cn=Andrew Waugh 1 If some directory manager named me like this, I'd be cross! One suggestion is to use the job description to disambiguate people: cn=Andrew Waugh%desc=X.500 Hacker This has advantages: * Unlikely to get a naming clash as two people would have to have the same name and do the same job. If this ever is the case, I'd suggest there is likely to already be serious naming confusion in the organization. The problem is also easily fixed with a tweak to the description * Users can often identify whether they have the right person just by inspecting the RDN. This is useful even if there are no naming clashes, as people are often trying to identify people by job function. It is especially useful with DUAs which list RDNs and let the user select. * It can be systematically applied to entries as they are added to the tree, avoiding hacks latter to disambiguate names. * It uses a standard attribute (i.e. no problem with X.500 equipment that doesn't know your local schema). It also has problems: * If a person changes job function, their name changes as well. (This may not be a major problem if a full organizational hierarchy is represented in the DIT, as a person changing from one OU to another will have their DN change anyway.) * The description is difficult to guess so the RDN cannot be guessed. (Searching works fine, however, and the description retrieved will help the user select amongst the answers returned.) * The RDN is quite long, causing loss of efficiency. (This may actually be considered as an advantage by the user, as the user is not just concerned with finding an entry, but also with verifying that the entry found is the correct one. The efficiency of retrieving the entry may be slightly lower, but the efficiency of identifying the correct entry may be much higher.) Incidentally, using descriptions to distinguish organizations is worth considering. I believe that this is how such names are often currently allocated. I can register a name used by another business if it will not cause confusion -- i.e. the description of the business is sufficiently different. andrew waugh
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